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Forget Greenland — Trump should offer statehood to these Canadian provinces
The Hill ^ | 11 02 2019 | Isaac Orr and Jason Hayes

Posted on 11/02/2019 5:42:56 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Jonty30

The only way that happens is if the USMCA doesn’t get ratified and the U.S. doesn’t push Canada to keep the oil flowing. A nationalized oil sector would cost Canada its largest trade partner.


21 posted on 11/02/2019 6:38:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Increasing the transfer payments would not violate the free trade agreement and it accomplished pseudo nationalization.


22 posted on 11/02/2019 6:40:52 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Alberta's Child

He’s cost the province over $200 billion in lost revenue. Make no mistake about it, he is not above destroying my province in order to convince it to be owned.


23 posted on 11/02/2019 6:43:34 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: yesthatjallen

Yup... elections have consequences. The Liberals win and a week later, Encana announce they are moving out of Calgary.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/np-view-encanas-loss-is-a-tragedy-trudeau-doesnt-have-much-to-say-about

I don’t have any doubt that Albertans in particular are totally sick of Ottawa and are ready to go Wexit. Two issues…. What ‘environmentalists are doing to Alberta’ and the ‘price that Alberta gets for oil’. These issues are totally related since Alberta is landlocked as far as getting oil out and the big focus of the so-called ‘environmental groups is to kill pipelines. With reference to the funding of all the environmental groups, Alberta Premier Kenney has initiated an enquiry to get to the bottom of all them…. probably nothing will happen because they’ll get tied up in all kinds of legal mumbo-jumbo but it we’ll see.

On a related issue, Vivien Krause has pulled together an awesome 30 minute documentary about who is behind all the ‘environment’ groups going after the Oil Sands and pipelines in Canada. Most of what is in the documentary about groups like the Pembina Institute, Greenpeace, Suzuki, Tides and Rockefeller Brothers Fund was already known but the documentary connects the dots very well. By the way, the documentary was free when I watched it a week ago…. I think they’re charging a nominal fee now. Highly recommended with great information in it, not the least of which is how the Alberta oil producers are getting screwed on price right now.

https://www.overabarreldoc.com/


24 posted on 11/02/2019 6:44:00 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: Jonty30
He’s cost the province over $200 billion in lost revenue.

Since when -- the start of the transfer payments program in 1972? LOL. Alberta taxpayers would be on the hook for a disproportionate share of a $23 trillion national debt if they ever became a U.S. state.

Canada's budget deficit for the current fiscal year is less than $20 billion. I've said many times that Americans should read that number and collectively kill ourselves.

No offense, but please be careful what you wish for.

25 posted on 11/02/2019 6:48:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Throw-in Nova Scotia, and we have a deal.


26 posted on 11/02/2019 6:50:51 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Alberta's Child

No. Since 2015. He’s cost the province over $100 billion in revenue by making it impossible to get the oil to the coast. He increased the equalization payments to Quebec, from Alberta, by $100 billion between 2015 and 2023.

It isn’t a joke. Because of that bastard,over 100,000 people have lost their jobs.


27 posted on 11/02/2019 6:51:46 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Jonty30

Until the lefties take over.


28 posted on 11/02/2019 6:52:56 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: hecticskeptic
The Liberals win and a week later, Encana announce they are moving out of Calgary.

Maybe those are related, but the election result was very much overshadowed by other economic conditions. I had the good fortune to get a detailed description of what's going on here directly from a Conservative western Canadian MLA a couple of months ago, and he never even mentioned the election as a factor in any of this. And Canada's Liberal government is weaker today than it was BEFORE the election.

In simple terms, what is driving the movement of multi-national corporations from Canada to the U.S. is the same thing that drove many U.S. corporations to move their headquarters out of the country for several years before the 2016 election. It's U.S. tax and regulatory policy -- particularly the changes from the 2017 Federal tax reform here -- that's driving this, not Canadian politics.

Here's the bottom line: The Canadian dollar is weaker today than it was ten years ago, and yet even companies in western Canada now have a competitive cost disadvantage against their U.S. counterparts despite this currency exchange advantage in their favor.

29 posted on 11/02/2019 7:01:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: yesthatjallen

First it was #Wexon, now it’s #Wexoff.


30 posted on 11/02/2019 7:03:21 AM PDT by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: Jonty30
I'd say you should disregard the "cost" of lost revenues from that pipeline ... because the pipeline didn't exist before, so it was never money you had in your pocket up there.

You have a similar problem with pipeline capacity constraints down here to the U.S., and that has nothing to do with Canadian politics (it's U.S. Federal courts that are the roadblock there).

31 posted on 11/02/2019 7:03:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Trump just needs to call for Quebec independence. THEN see what happens. We skim the cream off the top. Only Ontario could survive.


32 posted on 11/02/2019 7:06:16 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: bert

“The “North East” is effectively European in politics and no longer really America”

Actually, the North East has always been a European enclave! That goes all the way back to the founding, to the civil war, to the current crop of NE socialist!


33 posted on 11/02/2019 7:10:36 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: yesthatjallen

All of BC - the liberals on the coast would flee if DJT were to be their President.


34 posted on 11/02/2019 7:11:01 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: yesthatjallen

GOOD GOD, NO!


35 posted on 11/02/2019 7:11:56 AM PDT by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: DoodleDawg

Moderate Democrats? What is that?


36 posted on 11/02/2019 7:32:41 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (#NoNBA #No NFL)
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To: yesthatjallen

All of Canada is so steeped in British Libtardness that they could never be proper U.S. Citizens. If they were truly conservatives, Canada would not be in its current mess. Besides, the Tories who escaped the American Revolution landed in Canada and continue to work their evil to this day.


37 posted on 11/02/2019 7:33:07 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: yesthatjallen

I believe this was first proposed about fifty years ago. As one Canadian said, at the time, “Why would Canada want fifty more states?”


38 posted on 11/02/2019 7:36:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: yesthatjallen

Not US annexation, but West Canada - including BC - has a pretty good argument for secession and becoming a separate country.


39 posted on 11/02/2019 7:40:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Jonty30
Alberta’s oil is about to be nationalized

I highly doubt that, Trudeau and his eastern eco-pals want nothing to do with the oil companies.

What they will do, however, is continue what they've been doing already - force the oil & pipeline companies into a legal & regulatory straightjacket so tight that it chokes the industry to death.

And leading the effort is the ******* Province of Quebec, because it can claim it's "green" (with all its hydro-electric developments) while Alberta is "dirty". Canada really needs to get rid of Quebec, that'll solve a lot of problems


40 posted on 11/02/2019 7:44:36 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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