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1 posted on 11/01/2019 8:25:23 AM PDT by grundle
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I thought this had already been litigated, resulting in a finding that schools are never legally responsible for individual student outcomes.


2 posted on 11/01/2019 8:27:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Down with the ChiComs! Independence for Hong Kong!)
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Democrats do not want genuine education to thrive in minority neighborhoods.


3 posted on 11/01/2019 8:28:08 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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I’ve read through the U.S. Constitution for years, and I still can’t find a constitutional right to a free education anywhere.


4 posted on 11/01/2019 8:28:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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Can black students sue their peers for harassing them when they study saying “quit actin’ white”?


5 posted on 11/01/2019 8:29:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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But then, if too many students are held back/fail, then that’s racist. If there are too many black students in trouble/with discipline problems, then that’s racist.

Schools are between a rock and a hard place on this issue. Upgrading standards which cause students to flunk a grade or cause more to dropout, will be deemed racist.


6 posted on 11/01/2019 8:29:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Should be at the state level.


7 posted on 11/01/2019 8:30:05 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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With judges ruling on things like this, why do we need legislatures anymore?


8 posted on 11/01/2019 8:31:13 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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After two years of struggling to pass any of his community college classes, Jamarria Hall, 19, knows this for certain: His high school did not prepare him.

I know this for certain. "Jamarria" blew his chance to pull his own black arse out of the toilet, and he ain't ever going to do it now.

9 posted on 11/01/2019 8:32:12 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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An uneducated voter is a good Democrat voter.

Intelligence makes slaves question their masters. The Democrat elite do NOT want that.


11 posted on 11/01/2019 8:36:21 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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If rats are FORCED by their buddies in black robes to actually educate students where will they get the money that will cost them? It will come from their vote buying slush funds. This is why this is so dangerous to Democrats.


17 posted on 11/01/2019 8:39:30 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Public schools are a 19th century paradigm that outlived its usefulness in the early 21st century. It’s two primary functions are a jobs program for government employees and supplying free daycare to parents that have sold themselves into indentured slavery.


19 posted on 11/01/2019 8:40:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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I think the issue boils down to the following:

If the government is going to compel you to send your children to a government school,

and the government is going to compel you to pay taxes to support those government schools,

then the parent/student has a right to expect them to deliver on a defined end product.

While I believe this is a reasonable expectation for compulsory participation in the educational system, I sincerely doubt the courts will find the same or similar conclusion.

23 posted on 11/01/2019 8:45:42 AM PDT by sjmjax
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Yes, government schools are simply self-sustaining bureaucracies. “Education” is a secondary consideration.

But it also seems that these parents want to take even less responsibility for their own children. They are angry they even have to worry about it.


25 posted on 11/01/2019 8:47:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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You can take a horse to water...


27 posted on 11/01/2019 8:48:15 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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If he were that concerned, he’d have done independent study at school and at home. I’m betting he joined right in with the rest of his homies causing trouble in class.


29 posted on 11/01/2019 8:49:58 AM PDT by bgill
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"cases, now snaking their way through the federal courts, could yield “enormous, almost earth-shattering change in terms of educational funding and educational opportunity"

Conspicuously absent from this summary and from the entire article is the word "union". It's not that the schools don't spend enough, it's that they don't spend it on the right things. The unions certainly get a bunch.

33 posted on 11/01/2019 8:52:00 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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So Jamearria is flunking remedial English at the junior College level, so she’s complaining that the high school gave in to the blacks’ demands to let them skate through high school English or else they would sue the schools for discrimation.

It is becoming my ever firmer belief that blacks and whites will never be able to peacefully coexist together.


36 posted on 11/01/2019 8:56:53 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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Schools are a reflection of the community. If you want better schools change the culture of the community.


38 posted on 11/01/2019 9:00:12 AM PDT by beekay
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Easy solution. STOP voting for Democrats!!!!

School choice and a cash voucher from the Federal DoE taking all of the state organizations out of the mix.

Good teachers will be paid a good wage by the super abundance of private/parochial/secular schools which will start and bad teachers will be asking if you want fries with that sandwich.


43 posted on 11/01/2019 9:03:50 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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“... 11th and 12th grade English classes where students were taught from materials labeled for third or fourth graders”.


Of course they were. The students in those classes never mastered 4th-grade material. Holding them back until they did would result in 4th-grade classes with 17-year olds.

Many years ago, Missouri passed a last-minute education bill—kind of like Obama Care in that no one had actually read what was in the bill. After it passed and everyone was patting each other on the back for a job well done it was discovered that one representative had sneaked in a requirement that students had to be able to read at a 3rd-grade level before being passed to 4th.

The reality of this requirement send chills down the backs of legislators and educators alike. Since more than half of 3rd graders would surely fail the test, the next year would see small 4th grades and giant 3rd grades. Two years later it would get worse. So of course the provision was immediately repealed.

Detroit public high schools have to have 4th-grade English classes because too many Detroit high schoolers are functioning at a 4th grade level—and that might be on their good days.


45 posted on 11/01/2019 9:05:30 AM PDT by hanamizu
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