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To: grundle

I thought this had already been litigated, resulting in a finding that schools are never legally responsible for individual student outcomes.


2 posted on 11/01/2019 8:27:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Down with the ChiComs! Independence for Hong Kong!)
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To: Tax-chick

I would agree that litigation has occurred before. But in this case...the ‘kid’ reached some level of reality in realizing in the second year of community college that he wasn’t nowhere near prepared for what they were teaching.

No one says his level, but I would almost imagine that he’s basically at the 7th-to-8th grade level. He would need tutoring going on for a full-year to prepare for community college. No one is going to do that for ‘free’.

I had an associate I worked with around 2010. His son had finished up high school and the university had a math test requirement before entry. The kid then got a note after the test...he’d have to take a pre-college math class (in the $600 range) in that first semester. It counted for nothing toward a degree. His dad mounted a serious challenge on this, and they demonstrated that the kid wasn’t mathematically ready for college material.


15 posted on 11/01/2019 8:37:57 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Tax-chick

That’s correct. This problem can’t be solved in the courts, only by elections or armed revolts.


16 posted on 11/01/2019 8:38:59 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Tax-chick

If schools aren’t responsible for student outcomes, then vouchers are a must.


21 posted on 11/01/2019 8:42:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Tax-chick

I can not disagree, however from what I read the issue is the curriculum would never allow education that would provide English adequate for community college entry and success. The specifics of the litigation may be different than the decision of which you speak.

The student was unable to access adequate high school course work that enabled an education adequate for community college success.

I understand your point and know personally of your thought. The son of a close business associate received a baseball scholarship from a small private college. He lost it simply because he could not do any of the course work and did not actually survive the first semester. The fault was his because his school was good but he was just lazy and blew it. In effect, he brought shame on himself and his mother.


24 posted on 11/01/2019 8:46:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Tax-chick

Personal responsibility is never mentioned when left wing so-called leaders in government and media talk about the reasons for any kind of failures ... academic, cities, etc. We are now into a second or third generation who has been told that their failures are “someone else’s fault.” That is a recipe for failure.


62 posted on 11/01/2019 9:19:22 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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