Posted on 11/01/2019 8:25:23 AM PDT by grundle
Helen Moore of Detroit leads a group of protesters outside the federal courthouse in Cincinnati last Thursday.
"Every school in the country would be affected," one expert said. "There could be a lot of litigation."
After two years of struggling to pass any of his community college classes, Jamarria Hall, 19, knows this for certain: His high school did not prepare him.
The four years he spent at Detroit’s Osborn High School were “a big waste of time,” he said, recalling 11th and 12th grade English classes where students were taught from materials labeled for third or fourth graders, and where long-term substitutes showed movies instead of teaching.
What’s less certain, however, is whether Hall's education in Detroit’s long-troubled school district was so awful, so insufficient, that it violated his constitutional rights.
That’s the question now before a federal appeals court that heard arguments last week in one of two cases that experts say could have sweeping implications for schools across the country.
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It would be the lawyers who decided which court to bring this.
Personal responsibility is never mentioned when left wing so-called leaders in government and media talk about the reasons for any kind of failures ... academic, cities, etc. We are now into a second or third generation who has been told that their failures are “someone else’s fault.” That is a recipe for failure.
In large city schools, you cannot flunk protected classes, and teachers mainly just put in their time because you get in trouble if you enforce discipline or standards.
I have heard of some schools in New York where the school cannot refuse a child passing grades or even a diploma, just because the child never shows up for class.
That type of thinking, that type of screwy rationalization has to be addressed and stopped before the system changes.
I’ve heard of parents who go nuts when teachers ‘have the nerve’ to give their child a failing grade, and will come to the school to harass the teacher. Many such teachers find themselves without support of the administration or school board. That type of myopic thinking must change if improvement in education is truly desired.
BS. Free and Appropriate Public Education (FAPE) is an educational right of all students in the United States that is guaranteed by the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). Now, FAPE just guarantees access to education. It doesn't guarantee that you are going to automatically soak it up and pass.
LOL, Osborn. Had a girlfriend who went there. She called it ‘Da Bone’.
“Most of the time she was there, she said, she wasn’t given a curriculum.
“I had to Google how to teach phonics,” Schenkman said.
The school often lacked money to pay for basic supplies, she added.”
Oh Boo Hoo. There is no money for basic supplies or maintenance on building because the worthless Pubic school teachers in Detoilet suck up every dime of school funding.
Most are illiterate morons that couldn’t pass a test to enter 8th grade, but they are the highest paid teachers in America, or close to it.
Capitation. Break up not only the teachers union but all government unions — even Rosevelt thought they were a bad idea.
All schools should be private institutions but if we do have public schools than well defined reward/benefits with consequences for educators failing to perform.
The harder problem is how to improve the Schools of Education (fundamentally an oxymoron, I know). Nice but bottom of the rung kids academically. Worse, they are indoctrinated in leftism now.
All government pensions going to 401K’s — therefore government workers have a stake in a good economy.
Lastly, every school needs to teach rigorous history of the U.S. and western civilization. This is who we are as a culture. Adding the nonsense of the “garden spots” of the world does nothing but weaken us. Our toxin should be “Assimilate or leave!”. We have lots of room for opinions as long as we follow the founders blueprint.
Capitation. Break up not only the teachers union but all government unions — even Rosevelt thought they were a bad idea.
All schools should be private institutions but if we do have public schools than well defined reward/benefits with consequences for educators failing to perform.
The harder problem is how to improve the Schools of Education (fundamentally an oxymoron, I know). Nice but bottom of the rung kids academically. Worse, they are indoctrinated in leftism now.
All government pensions going to 401K’s — therefore government workers have a stake in a good economy.
Lastly, every school needs to teach rigorous history of the U.S. and western civilization. This is who we are as a culture. Adding the nonsense of the “garden spots” of the world does nothing but weaken us. Our toxin should be “Assimilate or leave!”. We have lots of room for opinions as long as we follow the founders blueprint.
“Students entering kindergarten should speak English.”
The Homies in Detoilet ax...define Enlish?
If they really thought he had a case they would have filed in a state court for compensatory damages, but they’d never win a case like that because they couldn’t demonstrate that the loser had suffered any harm or lost any money.
I think most viable 7-8th graders would be able to get a C at Comm College if they applied themselves at all!
I started taking Latin in 7th grade.
This dude was, like so many, mired in crap during grade school and nobody gave a Shiite!
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The four years he spent at Detroit’s Osborn High School were “a big waste of time,” he said, recalling 11th and 12th grade English classes where students were taught from materials labeled for third or fourth graders, and where long-term substitutes showed movies instead of teaching.
Your comment is as dumb as teaching 11th and 12th graders 3rd or 4th grade level material. This isn’t only happening in minority schools it is happening everywhere. Kids are being taught by Union thugs more interested in feather lining their nest then doing their job. See Chicago Teacher’s Union.
“Public schools are a 19th century paradigm that outlived its usefulness in the early 21st century. It’s two primary functions are a jobs program for government employees and supplying free daycare to parents that have sold themselves into indentured slavery.”
You forgot about the free food!
That’s part of the day care. :)
When will all these idiots in these cities run by democrats for 80 years realize who the enemy actually is?
The thing is that the student very likely did not realize how deficient his HS education was until required to perform basic Community College level school work. He relied on the school telling him (by graduating him) that he had met the proficiency needed to either seek decent employment or go on to college. So I don’t call him a loser. Anymore than I call any person taken in by a scam a loser.
That doesn’t mean I think he and the others have a case. His parents certainly AFAIK never were compelled to ask about the quality of his education. Nor does the reality that school is not the only source of knowledge ever seemed to have occurred to him or the others. I doubt he was totally isolated from such sources.
The truth is that government schools are broken. Government schools in large minority decayed urban cities are shattered. Giving students a way out of them would do more good than these law-suits.
I do appreciate Ms. Devos fighting Common Core - and now national tests show that kids who went through Common Core their whole educational career do WORSE.
Learn to read and get beaten up for “acting white”.
Which is why we need to get the Federal Government out of education. Keep the responsibility for education in the states.
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