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Trump Impeachment Starts More Partisan Than Bill Clinton's
Axios ^ | 11/1/19

Posted on 11/01/2019 4:35:31 AM PDT by Helicondelta

During the House's historic vote to set the ground rules for the impeachment of Donald J. Trump, members shouted and booed as the votes popped up in lights on the wall above them.

Why it matters: The Legislative Branch embarks on its ultimate weapon against the Executive Branch with the two parties locked in corners.

You could see Republicans shaking their heads as the "Yea" votes soared. Speaker Pelosi lost only two Democrats; no Republicans crossed over.

Flashback: It wasn't this stark 21 years ago, for the 1998 vote launching the impeachment of William J. Clinton: 31 Democrats joined all Republicans in setting up a formal process for considering impeachment

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 116th; speakerpelosi; tds; witchhunt
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To: Liz
excellent post.
Viktor Pinchuk is also part of the Atlantic council a George Soros organization.
41 posted on 11/01/2019 10:33:25 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Lazamataz
Bill O’Reilly: 'If Joe Biden is elected president ... he has to be impeached'
42 posted on 11/01/2019 10:38:43 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Helicondelta

It was not a formal vote to impeach. But continue saying it and perception will become reality. This is not following the impeachment process set forth in the Constitution. This is a sham and is illegal on its face as is and was the entire Trump investigation.


43 posted on 11/01/2019 10:40:59 AM PDT by sport
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To: Lazamataz
From this point forward, if the opposition party holds the House, every president will be impeached.

What a garbage legacy for Pelosi and Schiff.

44 posted on 11/01/2019 12:22:18 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Always like to have joke references. Good one.
Fits perfectly today.


45 posted on 11/01/2019 12:26:05 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: rlmorel

Interesting that Obama had approval numbers similar to Trump but Clinton’s were much higher.


46 posted on 11/01/2019 12:26:14 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: Helicondelta

I believe the Dems running for POTUS will be harmed as impeachment will take away the focus from them. It really is a stupid mistake for the Rats. Only a few months till the first caucuses/ primaries.


47 posted on 11/01/2019 1:22:40 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Hm. That IS interesting, considering that the media was pumping him up with a 1200 psi hose...and that was the best they could do.

Well, I guess you can polish a turd all you want, but in the end...it is still a turd!


48 posted on 11/01/2019 1:51:35 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: bert

“Bubba Clinton lied to a judge, in court.”

I (briefly) heard Savage ridicule that this afternoon, saying basically “every president lies” and it was all about sex, etc, and he had warned the Republicans, etc.

In that case, Al Capone’s heirs and dependents are owed baskets of cash in large bills, because the Feds had absolutely no evidence of murder and racketeering.

I read Clapper and Brennan are offering to “cooperate” with Durham — by bashing Trump.


49 posted on 11/01/2019 2:21:45 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Helicondelta
BillyBob’s was about perjury...in a Federal proceeding. DJT’s is about FL,NC,PA,OH,MI,IN,WI,IA and the 2nd Congressional District of Maine.
50 posted on 11/01/2019 2:54:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: Helicondelta

“....starts more partisan than Bill Clinton’s...”

That’s because Slick Willie committed legitimate crimes that couldn’t be covered up, and BOTH sides knew it.


51 posted on 11/01/2019 4:36:42 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Savage Beast
Nothing is beneath them

But they can be beneath something, if they push hard enough...

52 posted on 11/01/2019 7:23:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Extreme


53 posted on 11/01/2019 7:25:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Helicondelta

Trump is no dummy, and hopefully there is someone in his army of attorneys who knows how to turn this thing around.

There’s a very real possibility that an impeachment vote that takes the case to the Senate might play precisely into Trump’s hands where he could counter with probable cause that reaches beyond a reasonable doubt of high crimes and treason committed by the very politicians pushing for impeachment.

Let’s see how this thing plays out. Let’s also watch for the Hand of Divine Providence.


54 posted on 11/02/2019 9:44:12 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: tired&retired
Let's confirm Chucky's fears.


55 posted on 11/02/2019 1:21:10 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Lazamataz

But look on the bright side. No Republicans crossed over this time, and none crossed over in 1998. We have unity at least in that regard.


56 posted on 11/02/2019 4:32:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Lazamataz

That will drastically alter the way that mid-term elections are carried out. Whoever has the White House will have to keep the House in the mid-term. No more gridlock.


57 posted on 11/02/2019 4:34:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: wastoute

“ Does anyone actually believe this country can actually hold an election anyone will respect?”

You can bet that every single Trump voter respects the 2016 election results, and I would guess even a healthy share of Hillary Clinton voters are reasonable enough people to accept defeat. Don’t let the fake news fool you - there is a fringe component of the Democrat party that disputes the election, but they are a tiny minority.

They make a lot of noise, aided by the ABCNNBCBS fake news, but there aren’t nearly as many of them as they would have you believe.

Anyway, President Trump will win by a much bigger margin in 2020 - he was a complete unknown in 2016 and still won - this time around he is running as an incumbent with a very strong economy and no foreign policy embarrassments - and because of the way the Democrats are behaving, he still gets to run as an outsider - a “change candidate” against the establishment. His base still loves him more than ever because he keeps his promises and he fights. And the Democrat party has not one single strong candidate on the bench.

He will win both the popular vote and the electoral college vote and there is a very good chance he will have enough coattails to win back Republican control of the House.

Hillary Clinton actually won the popular vote in 2016 and she still comes off as a sore loser making that claim. The 2020 results will be respected.


58 posted on 11/03/2019 12:38:44 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: enumerated

I remember her and Michael Moore were getting facetime together on TV, and they were both asserting that she had won, and the Constitution be damned, just on account of the popular vote. So there is a fringe component, yes. And the 2016 Democrat candidate is egging them on! She has been encouraging civil war from November 9, 2016, over her bruised ego, and may she rot in hell for it.


59 posted on 11/03/2019 1:16:45 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: sport

It is a fishing expedition looking for a crime. If it were a formal impeachment vote, like they are supposed to do, it would sit out specific charges they could look to investigate based on what evidence they have at that point. As of now it stands they are free to investigate whatever they want until they find something that suits their needs.


60 posted on 11/04/2019 7:49:08 AM PST by matt04
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