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Trump’s First Impeachment Win
The Atlantic ^ | October 31, 2019 | Russell Berman

Posted on 10/31/2019 10:47:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The House’s resolution should have been the easiest for Republicans to go along with. None of them did.

So this is how the impeachment of President Donald Trump is going to go.

The House this morning cast its first vote in a process that could lead to just the third Senate impeachment trial of a president in U.S. history. When Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced plans for the vote earlier this week, there was at least some promise of drama: Which House Democrats would defect? How many Republicans might defy Trump to back a formal impeachment inquiry that a few of them had signaled their support for?

After all, this was a vote that Republicans and the White House had been demanding for weeks—an official resolution that took the ambiguity and the secrecy out of the closed-door process Democrats had been conducting, a means of forcing every lawmaker to go on record in support of or in opposition to the impeachment inquiry. Pelosi, who had resisted holding such a vote for more than a month, had given in.

Yet when lawmakers gathered in the House chamber this morning, the actual tally turned out to be like so many others in Congress: party-line and partisan, a mere formality. Not a single House Republican voted with Democrats to affirm the impeachment. Not Representative Mark Amodei of Nevada, who had briefly backed the inquiry in the early going. Or Representative Will Hurd of Texas, the ex-CIA officer who earlier this month called Trump’s demand that Ukraine investigate former Vice President Joe Biden “terrible.” Or even Representative Francis Rooney of Florida, who had voiced his openness to impeachment and then promptly announced his retirement from Congress.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 116th; congress; couppeachment; declassification; democrats; fbi; fisa; impeachment; pelosi; republicans; trump; trumpukraine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he wanted to, could McConnell hold his own version of “hearings”, (not call them Impeachment Hearings, of course), introduce evidence, and hold an “informal” vote concurrent to the House Dem Coup activities. Refuting evidence could be entered into the official Senate record, and show the Traitors up for what they are. Just wondering...


21 posted on 10/31/2019 11:03:50 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: mrsmith

In the Senate, there should be a “motion to dismiss”


22 posted on 10/31/2019 11:05:23 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman ( p)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It’s ‘The Atlantic’. Tells you all you need to know.


23 posted on 10/31/2019 11:06:48 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: glennaro
as well as an unambiguous message to McConnell that if impeachment is ultimately referred for trial it must be struck dead at the door of the Senate as the sham it is.

 

Correct. And now is the time for a Senate Resolution. One proclaiming that if/when the Morons in the House do send an Impeachment vote to the Senate - it will be immediately voted down and declined.

But with squishy Repugs like Mitch around - I doubt very much they will make such Resolution now. Nor immedately vote down Impeachment if/when it does reach the Senate.

I wonder if the House will hold any open hearings on this matter? If not, then the Senate could. And call the very same witnesses that testified before Schiff for Brains.

And televise the thing. Live.

24 posted on 10/31/2019 11:08:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Come November of 2020 there will no be very many Democrat office holders in the Heartland or in the Southeast with the exception of the larger cities. In fact in rural districts all over this country there won’t be many Democrats left.


25 posted on 10/31/2019 11:10:13 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: Lion Den Dan
or is this some flim flam brought by left wing feather merchants to try and make legitimate the existing kangaroo fraud?

Correct, still no vote for an official impeachment, so all those Democrat demand letters that Big Media still falsely calls "subpoenas" can be safely ignored


26 posted on 10/31/2019 11:10:14 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New Species discovered ! The “California Kangaroo”, one female ( Nancy) and one male?(Adam).


27 posted on 10/31/2019 11:10:50 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: livius

Basically, every Democrat Congressperson (except two) signed on to the coup plotters plot.

Their call...


28 posted on 10/31/2019 11:16:34 AM PDT by cgbg (Vote Trump or you will _be_ Trump)
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To: Right-wing Librarian
If he wanted to, could McConnell hold his own version of “hearings”, (not call them Impeachment Hearings, of course), introduce evidence, and hold an “informal” vote concurrent to the House Dem Coup activities.

I would rather he focused on approving judges, including completely ignoring the "blue slip" rule.

Confirming a hundred Constitutionalist judges before Christmas recess would be the best Christmas present he could give us.

29 posted on 10/31/2019 11:18:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The house voted for impeachment???

Really? So, now the Senate has the ball? Nothing has changed from yesterday.


30 posted on 10/31/2019 11:23:28 AM PDT by TruthFactor (Hang em', Hang em' High.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A total joke.


31 posted on 10/31/2019 11:26:30 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats won a Pyrrhic victory this morning. Democrats representing Trump districts will pay the price for this sham resolution.


32 posted on 10/31/2019 11:27:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yup. Trump is never going to be convicted by the Senate and Democrats know it.

They just can’t stop digging the hole they’re in.


33 posted on 10/31/2019 11:29:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am trying to understand this political theater. They(The usual suspects) know they cant get the real vote to impeach so is this all grand standing to keep it all in the media lens and to keep the battle of perception going? I can see the merit of the tactic but it ultimately will fail. The Dems will lose ground everywhere except their strongholds and strategically its a terrible move. I would use the term Mob Rule here but I don’t think that is what this entire exercise is. At what point is this unconstitutional and can be fought on those grounds legally? As far as I can tell the rule of law has been set aside and congress or the ones that have the power to stop this are doing nothing.

Am I the only one seeing this mess in this light? I am curious to what everyone is thinking on this. Its historic alright but in the meaning of the absolute corruption of process and the law.


34 posted on 10/31/2019 11:41:19 AM PDT by Nuke From Orbit
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many here are missing it big time.

They’re not trying to get him removed via Senate conviction.
They’re trying to get a House “impeachment”.
They want him marked as unelectable damaged goods.

They know it’s a dead letter in the Senate.
They need about 3% of otherwise Trump voters to withhold their votes.
Getting Trump labeled “impeached” is enough to achieve that.


35 posted on 10/31/2019 11:42:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: ctdonath2

or so they tell themselves!


36 posted on 10/31/2019 11:45:38 AM PDT by Reily
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To: ctdonath2

He wasn’t impeached and the House didn’t vote for formal impeachment or for articles of impeachment.

The whole thing is dead and branding him won’t hurt Trump anymore than it hurt Clinton.


37 posted on 10/31/2019 11:46:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
>>>The House still voted for impeachment. Stupids...

LOL - no they didn't. They voted for an impeachment inquiry and to approve a set of rules for the impeachment process.

That's a FAR CRY from voting for impeachment. Come on...

38 posted on 10/31/2019 11:48:22 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: TruthFactor
>>>Really? So, now the Senate has the ball? Nothing has changed from yesterday.

No. They voted for an impeachment inquiry and to approve a set of rules for the impeachment process. Pay no attention to people on FR who don't know what they are talking about. IF PDJT had been IMPEACHED - you would know it.

39 posted on 10/31/2019 11:49:57 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: mrsmith

“If 1 R had voted for it, the media would be filled with stories!

2Dems voted against it, and no one says a word (except parenthetically).”

Yes, I’m waiting for the WaPo headline “Bipartisan opposition to procedural House impeachment vote.”/s


40 posted on 10/31/2019 11:50:28 AM PDT by riverdawg
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