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'Crisis of confidence': John Roberts' impeachment role prompts recusal rumblings
The Washington Times ^ | Sunday, October 27, 2019 | Alex Swoyer

Posted on 10/27/2019 4:06:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

In an impeachment trial in the Senate, President Trump would look up to see one of his Washington establishment foes, Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., presiding over the historic proceedings from the dais in the upper chamber.

Mr. Trump, who has clashed with Chief Justice Roberts over the perceived political bias of the federal courts, would have to count on him for a fair hearing when the fate of his presidency hangs in the balance.

It’s a prospect that has caused rumblings in Washington that the chief justice should recuse himself.

John Cardillo, a conservative radio personality and host on Newsmax TV, sounded the recusal alarm.

“There is already a crisis of confidence among the American people that we have a fair system of justice. When you have a chief justice of the Supreme Court overtly making comments that are derogatory to the president of the United States, take all speculation out of the process,” he said.

What’s more, the recusal question extends down the bench of the high court. All of the justices likely will play a role in deciding Congress’ subpoenas power over the executive branch as House Democrats conduct an impeachment inquiry.

Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg have publicly commented on Mr. Trump in recent years, including Justice Ginsburg going as far as calling him a “faker” and the chief justice sending a sharp rebuke to the commander in chief over the political independence of the judiciary.

The issue of potential bias comes about a year after Justice Roberts released an unusual statement, indirectly firing back at the president over his politicization of judges based on the president who appointed them.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: coup; johnroberts; judiciary; supremecourt
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To: dp0622

Well, you did and are doing it,dp.

Maybe this is an off season time


21 posted on 10/27/2019 4:44:16 PM PDT by combat_boots (TGod bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! Hi)
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To: coaster123

Well put


22 posted on 10/27/2019 4:45:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (TGod bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! Hi)
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To: demkicker

“I don’t trust him....”

I don’t either.... somebody has a string on him


23 posted on 10/27/2019 4:51:38 PM PDT by DOC44
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To: combat_boots

I appreciate that.

But it’s been an off season for too long

It’s amazing how THE SAME BRAIN that literally STARVED to lose 100 plus and keep it off for years just can’t do it again for 100 pounds and get it over with.

I guess the brain is fluid, unlike say a computer.

What it can do one day or week, it can’t do another.


24 posted on 10/27/2019 5:04:09 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Roberts gets a bad rep. I know the Constitution as written but deeper context can be way to much of a mess. I wish Madison and Jefferson would give their opinion. I wish we had more Presidents and Congressmen like them.


25 posted on 10/27/2019 5:05:37 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is utter nonsense.

The Chief Justice has only a ceremonial role in presiding over the Senate trial, and doesn’t even have a role in citing or enforcing procedure unless the Senate asks his opinion.

And he most certainly does not get a vote.

Besides, what part of “the Chief Justice will preside” does this dimwit not understand?


26 posted on 10/27/2019 5:06:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GOP Congress

“What the House is doing is well beyond the constraints of Constitutional authority with regard to impeachment.”

Nonsense.

The House can run an impeachment any way they damn well please.

As long as in the end they muster a majority vote.

And there is no power on earth that can compel them to do, or not do, as they please.

Period.


27 posted on 10/27/2019 5:11:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If Roberts is a good Justice, he will send the “case” back to the House and say start over with due process for the President. And by the way, there are no impeachable offenses in your referral.


28 posted on 10/27/2019 5:12:06 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Verginius Rufus; Williams

But there is almost no role for the CJ in the hearings. He “presides” over them. I don’t think - or know of - any specific powers he would have except to appoint administrative assistants. It’s not like a regular court where he can rule on evidence or process. In the trial of POTUS Johnson, the CJ presiding over the case did make some unilateral procedural rulings but his rulings were overturned by the Senate.


29 posted on 10/27/2019 5:12:29 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Mariner
This is utter nonsense. The Chief Justice has only a ceremonial role in presiding over the Senate trial, and doesn’t even have a role in citing or enforcing procedure unless the Senate asks his opinion. And he most certainly does not get a vote. Besides, what part of “the Chief Justice will preside” does this dimwit not understand?

Exactly. During the Clintoon trial, the Chief Justice was a figurehead, and rightfully so. Impeachment is a political process, and he simply presided over the proceedings. He wasn't issuing rulings from the bench like Judge Ito or anything like that.

30 posted on 10/27/2019 5:15:05 PM PDT by TontoKowalski (You can call me "Dick.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let Clarence Thomas preside.


31 posted on 10/27/2019 5:29:26 PM PDT by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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To: Mariner

The Chief Justice is involved for one reason only...that is to give a political trial the semblance of a fair and impartial hearing. He’s window dressing.


32 posted on 10/27/2019 5:30:24 PM PDT by damper99
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To: TontoKowalski

I recall Rehnquist making a ruling favoring Clinton during that trial. It was whether the senators could be referred to as “jurors”.


33 posted on 10/27/2019 5:35:04 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: demkicker

Any way to remove him as Chief Justice?
If so, it should have been done already!!


34 posted on 10/27/2019 6:04:25 PM PDT by bantam
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Our Founders understood that, a lot times, important public figures strongly disagree with one another on principle, or profoundly dislike one another personally.

They set us up a system that rolls in spite of that.

Maybe Trump seduced Roberts’s wife ... zot only knows ... but the procedures are the procedures. Stop acting like the present situation is special. It isn’t.


35 posted on 10/27/2019 6:26:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Down with the ChiComs! Independence for Hong Kong!)
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To: Mariner

Impeachment arguments are supposed to take place in a full house, with no ambiguity. This was not a suggestion, but a meticulous directive on how the process should have been advanced. The fact that the House leadership has essentially shut out the Republicans and the public from the proceedings, and instead leaking part of the testimony that removes all context is not an impeachment proceeding, but a star chamber devoid of justice.

So if the House leadership (Democrats) can make the rules, what else can they do? Why not just shut all Republicans out from ALL House business, because they are in the minority, and only let them in if the Democrats don’t have the required votes at any time (such as overriding a veto)? This, frankly, is JUST as valid as the fake impeachment process they are doing now.


36 posted on 10/27/2019 7:28:13 PM PDT by GOP Congress
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bump


37 posted on 10/27/2019 8:25:27 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: GOP Congress

“Impeachment arguments are supposed to take place in a full house, with no ambiguity. This was not a suggestion, but a meticulous directive on how the process should have been advanced.”

Directive? By whom exactly?

It’s precedent, not directive.

There is no power on earth that can direct the House on impeachment protocol. None.


38 posted on 10/27/2019 11:31:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

AGAIN...

Then by your logic, there is no restriction on what Pelosi and the Democrats can do to run the rest of the House business. If they want to lock the Republicans out of the Capitol Building, they have the right to do so.

I rarely use hyperbole, but with regard to House proceedings, one must compare apples to apples. By restricting all GOP involvement with any aspect of impeachment, then by extension, in fact, Pelosi can restrict all GOP involvement with any aspect of House governance. And, in fact, this is the direction the House is going, once all is said and done.


39 posted on 10/28/2019 9:55:32 AM PDT by GOP Congress
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To: GOP Congress

“Then by your logic, there is no restriction on what Pelosi and the Democrats can do to run the rest of the House business. If they want to lock the Republicans out of the Capitol Building, they have the right to do so.”

They can deny them participation in any and all aspects of House governance and bills. As long as they have those 218 votes when doing so.

But they cannot deny them access to the building. That was a non sequitur.


40 posted on 10/28/2019 4:05:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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