Posted on 10/17/2019 6:44:40 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
The U.S. President Donald Trump did not oppose a deal struck between the Syrian Kurdish-led forces, Russia and the Syrian government in Damascus to protect against a Turkish offensive in northeastern Syria, the commander of the force said as his fighters battled a new push by Ankara-backed fighters to seize a strategic border town.
The commander of the Kurdish-led forces, Mazloum Abdi, said Trump essentially gave the go-ahead for the deal in a phone call Monday.
The Kurds deal, announced Sunday, came after Trump ordered U.S. troops to step aside as Turkey launched its attack last week. Under the agreement, forces of Syrian President Bashar Assad effectively replace the U.S. troops on the ground in the border areas, with Moscow guaranteeing the deal.
We told (Trump) that we are contacting the Syrian regime and the Russians in order to protect our country and land, Abdi, better known by his nom de guerre Mazloum Kobani, told a local TV station, Ronahi TV. He said, We are not against that. We support that.
Vice President Mike Pence, heading a U.S. delegation that includes Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, is set to arrive in Turkey Thursday afternoon, aiming to press Turkey to accept a cease-fire in its offensive. Before their arrival, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu met with White House national security adviser Robert OBrien.
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Well, we also agree your nickname is patently absurd. ;)
These are PKK, the bad Turds.
PER WIKI
According to United States Army Special Forces Commander General Raymond A. Thomas at the Aspen Security Forum in July 2017, the SDF is a PR-friendly name for the YPG, which Thomas personally suggested because the YPG is considered an arm of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which is designated as a terrorist group by the Federal government of the United States.[111][112]
American Defense Secretary Ashton Carter confirmed substantial ties between the PYD/YPG and the PKK.[113] Testifying to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Congress, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, the top U.S. intelligence official, explicitly defined the YPG as the PKKs militia force in Syria.[114][115]
The history of the Kurdistan Workers Party began in 1974 as a MarxistLeninist organization under the leadership of Abdullah Öcalan.
In 1978 the organization adopted the name Kurdistan Workers Party and waged Urban War between 19781980. The organization restructured itself and moved the organization structure to Syria between 19801984 just after the 1980 Turkish coup détat. The campaign of armed conflict began in 1984.
The rural-based insurgency lasted between 19841992. The PKK shifted its activities to include urban attacks against Turkish military bases between 19931995 and later
PatriotsPride hit the nail on the head and drove it home with one blow.
Smedley Butler' short book, War Is A Racket, is available on line as a free .pdf and costs less than $5 on Amazon. It's the shortest, most straight forward, summation of the facts. If you haven't read it, READ IT
Your excellent link posted earlier today is worth reposting. It is the clip of the General stating how the name change was done. There is a link at the site to watch the entire program.
General Raymond Thomas, commander of US Special Operations Command (SOCOM) explains how they knowingly whitewashed the US-designated terrorist group #PKK in order to arm and support them in #Syria. (2017 interview) #SDF
“Russia is now stuck with millions of cousin marrying, goat raping savages.” That made me laugh. ...a friend told me “maybe we should just nuke em, and ask the other countries if they want some too”. I told him that seemed a tad bit extreme, but I got his point. Win wars and leave the nation building to someone else. I thought one of the best things that Trump told them was that if they wanted him to go to war, they should declare war. He didn’t get any takers.
“Sorry.....Syria and Russia have been allies for 50 years.”
As is the PKK.
Thank you for noticing. I happen to be an expert at absurdity.
LTGM is also the maximum size of the FR name variable, but no one notices that tiny fact.
Yep, to me just the complexity alone is a big red flag.
(Putin) will continue to try to expand influence into Turkey
The new situation makes that Strategically much more difficult.
With Russia back as the power behind Turkeys nemesis, the PKK, they will have a persistent wedge between them - and that wedge will no longer be driving the USA and Turkey apart. Russia and Turkey are back to aiming guns at each other, which drives Turkey into American arms, Erdogan or not.
Long term, Turkey is a much greater geostrategic prize, by far.
We have other Kurdish friends we can still cultivate, like the Peshmerga in Iraq.
Even if the Syrian Kurds affiliated with the PKK must make their terms with the Syrian regime, and the USA does not fund all of their hopes and dreams, they will still remember us as a far better ally than they are accustomed to in that region. We saved them from ISIS, showered them with resources, and did not turn our guns on them when the political winds changed. Unusually good behavior, by Mid-East standards.
Like a Super Hero flying in to save the day, and then just flying away.
Since when does “Trump approved deal” with Russia, Damascus; equal U.S. President Donald “Trump did not oppose a deal”. In AP land, I guess?
Kurdish Syrians fighting along side of Arab Syrians against Turkish invaders.
This is the last chapter in the Syrian Civil War. Assad and Putin won. Now let them rebuild their nation. This will limit Turkey’s moves to expand. As for Isis—Assad and Putin will show them no mercy. Many were Russian Islamic people and as such be given only one right—the right to die. Its all about the oil. Kurd’s dream of an independent Kurdistan are done.
“My question is what was wrong with Syria before we intervened in 2011 under Obola and the Witch and tried to overthrow the Assad government. “
Same question for Libya under Ghaddafi, and a few others.
No disagreement there.
Change of subject. Any new ground breaking on wall contracts?
As far as the Congress Critter idiots complaining about Russian influence in Syria, all that can be said is that Syria has been a Russian ally for over 50 years and that Obama’s bloody regime change failed before he left office. Obama created ISIS. ISIS was his ugly, evil baby and America ended up having to kill them all wholesale because they were so murder-happy and disgusting. .
Life has happened to me, and I have been off the job of monitoring the Wall.
Unknown when I will get fully online again - probably a few days or a week.
Most likely the agreement was a result of General Mazloum’s offer of concessions to the Turks that Trump relayed to Erdogen in his letter, and not something conceived later as implied.
Where do you think we and Israel finally caught the founding member of Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah 2nd in command Imad Mugniyeh, the guy responsible for killing hundreds of US Marines, for torturing to death CIA station chief William Buckley, the guy responsible for assorted embassy bombings including in the Americas, where he established Hezbollah in the Americas to work with the drug cartels? The United States indicted Mughniyeh the 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847, in which he tortured and murdered the U.S. Navy personnel Robert Stethem, who Mughniyeh and his men tortured for hours, before killing him and dumping his body onto the airport tarmac. He was also involved in the bombing of Khobar Towers.
Fate caught up to him in Damascus, Syria on February 12, 2008, where he lived with his Iranian wife, as he strolled by a car after he left a meeting with Syrian generals.
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