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Kurdish commander: Trump approved deal with Russia, Damascus

Posted on 10/17/2019 6:44:40 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Well, we also agree your nickname is patently absurd. ;)

21 posted on 10/17/2019 7:20:18 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Sacajaweau

These are PKK, the bad Turds.


According to United States Army Special Forces Commander General Raymond A. Thomas at the Aspen Security Forum in July 2017, the SDF is a PR-friendly name for the YPG, which Thomas personally suggested because the YPG is considered an arm of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is designated as a terrorist group by the Federal government of the United States.[111][112]

American Defense Secretary Ashton Carter confirmed “substantial ties” between the PYD/YPG and the PKK.[113] Testifying to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Congress, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, the top U.S. intelligence official, explicitly defined the YPG as the “PKK’s militia force in Syria”.[114][115]

The history of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party began in 1974 as a Marxist–Leninist organization under the leadership of Abdullah Öcalan.

In 1978 the organization adopted the name “Kurdistan Workers Party” and waged Urban War between 1978–1980. The organization restructured itself and moved the organization structure to Syria between 1980–1984 just after the 1980 Turkish coup d’état. The campaign of armed conflict began in 1984.

The rural-based insurgency lasted between 1984–1992. The PKK shifted its activities to include urban attacks against Turkish military bases between 1993–1995 and later

22 posted on 10/17/2019 7:20:59 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: patriotspride; All
"Someone’s pockets aren’t going to lined , including many who voted for the rebuke of Trump"

PatriotsPride hit the nail on the head and drove it home with one blow.

Smedley Butler' short book, War Is A Racket, is available on line as a free .pdf and costs less than $5 on Amazon. It's the shortest, most straight forward, summation of the facts. If you haven't read it, READ IT

23 posted on 10/17/2019 7:25:21 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Your excellent link posted earlier today is worth reposting. It is the clip of the General stating how the name change was done. There is a link at the site to watch the entire program.

General Raymond Thomas, commander of US Special Operations Command (SOCOM) explains how they knowingly whitewashed the US-designated terrorist group #PKK in order to arm and support them in #Syria. (2017 interview) #SDF

24 posted on 10/17/2019 7:25:48 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“Russia is now stuck with millions of cousin marrying, goat raping savages.” That made me laugh. ...a friend told me “maybe we should just nuke em, and ask the other countries if they want some too”. I told him that seemed a tad bit extreme, but I got his point. Win wars and leave the nation building to someone else. I thought one of the best things that Trump told them was that if they wanted him to go to war, they should declare war. He didn’t get any takers.

25 posted on 10/17/2019 7:27:22 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: babble-on

26 posted on 10/17/2019 7:35:39 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Sorry.....Syria and Russia have been allies for 50 years.”

As is the PKK.

27 posted on 10/17/2019 7:39:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: Magnum44

Thank you for noticing. I happen to be an expert at absurdity.

LTGM is also the maximum size of the FR name variable, but no one notices that tiny fact.

28 posted on 10/17/2019 7:43:27 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: livius

Yep, to me just the complexity alone is a big red flag.

29 posted on 10/17/2019 7:45:07 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Magnum44

“(Putin) will continue to try to expand influence into Turkey”

The new situation makes that Strategically much more difficult.

With Russia back as the power behind Turkey’s nemesis, the PKK, they will have a persistent wedge between them - and that wedge will no longer be driving the USA and Turkey apart. Russia and Turkey are back to aiming guns at each other, which drives Turkey into American arms, Erdogan or not.

Long term, Turkey is a much greater geostrategic prize, by far.

We have other Kurdish friends we can still cultivate, like the Peshmerga in Iraq.

Even if the Syrian Kurds affiliated with the PKK must make their terms with the Syrian regime, and the USA does not fund all of their hopes and dreams, they will still remember us as a far better ally than they are accustomed to in that region. We saved them from ISIS, showered them with resources, and did not turn our guns on them when the political winds changed. Unusually good behavior, by Mid-East standards.

Like a Super Hero flying in to save the day, and then just flying away.

30 posted on 10/17/2019 7:45:30 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

31 posted on 10/17/2019 7:46:40 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Since when does “Trump approved deal” with Russia, Damascus; equal U.S. President Donald “Trump did not oppose a deal”. In AP land, I guess?

32 posted on 10/17/2019 7:54:45 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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To: yesthatjallen
What a concept.

Kurdish Syrians fighting along side of Arab Syrians against Turkish invaders.

33 posted on 10/17/2019 8:22:42 AM PDT by seowulf
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To: wildcard_redneck

This is the last chapter in the Syrian Civil War. Assad and Putin won. Now let them rebuild their nation. This will limit Turkey’s moves to expand. As for Isis—Assad and Putin will show them no mercy. Many were Russian Islamic people and as such be given only one right—the right to die. Its all about the oil. Kurd’s dream of an independent Kurdistan are done.

34 posted on 10/17/2019 8:34:57 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound ovil.f the guns!)
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To: libstripper

“My question is what was wrong with Syria before we intervened in 2011 under Obola and the Witch and tried to overthrow the Assad government. “

Same question for Libya under Ghaddafi, and a few others.

35 posted on 10/17/2019 8:56:20 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: BeauBo
Turkey is a much greater geostrategic prize

No disagreement there.

Change of subject. Any new ground breaking on wall contracts?

36 posted on 10/17/2019 9:31:21 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
The responsibility for this fiasco is on Erdogan for not realizing that the strategic interests of the United States have changed due to our energy independence. We no longer need to ensure the uninterrupted oil supply from the Middle East because we don't need it. Also both of our allies in the Syrian Civil War are for shit. Turkey is constantly backstabbing America and has been doing so for decades and the PPK Kurds are nothing but violent marxist nut jobs. I hope they kill one another until they are too exhausted to go on.

As far as the Congress Critter idiots complaining about Russian influence in Syria, all that can be said is that Syria has been a Russian ally for over 50 years and that Obama’s bloody regime change failed before he left office. Obama created ISIS. ISIS was his ugly, evil baby and America ended up having to kill them all wholesale because they were so murder-happy and disgusting. .

37 posted on 10/17/2019 10:21:14 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: Magnum44

Life has happened to me, and I have been off the job of monitoring the Wall.

Unknown when I will get fully online again - probably a few days or a week.

38 posted on 10/17/2019 2:00:22 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: yesthatjallen

Most likely the agreement was a result of General Mazloum’s offer of concessions to the Turks that Trump relayed to Erdogen in his letter, and not something conceived later as implied.

39 posted on 10/17/2019 8:10:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: libstripper

Where do you think we and Israel finally caught the founding member of Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah 2nd in command Imad Mugniyeh, the guy responsible for killing hundreds of US Marines, for torturing to death CIA station chief William Buckley, the guy responsible for assorted embassy bombings including in the Americas, where he established Hezbollah in the Americas to work with the drug cartels? The United States indicted Mughniyeh the 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847, in which he tortured and murdered the U.S. Navy personnel Robert Stethem, who Mughniyeh and his men tortured for hours, before killing him and dumping his body onto the airport tarmac. He was also involved in the bombing of Khobar Towers.

Fate caught up to him in Damascus, Syria on February 12, 2008, where he lived with his Iranian wife, as he strolled by a car after he left a meeting with Syrian generals.

40 posted on 10/17/2019 8:42:47 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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