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Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast.
The New York Times ^ | October 14th, 2019 | David E. Sanger

Posted on 10/14/2019 3:44:39 PM PDT by Mariner

President Trump’s acquiescence to Turkey’s move to send troops deep inside Syrian territory has in only one week’s time turned into a bloody carnage, forced the abandonment of a successful five-year-long American project to keep the peace on a volatile border, and given an unanticipated victory to four American adversaries: Russia, Iran, the Syrian government and the Islamic State.

Rarely has a presidential decision resulted so immediately in what his own party leaders have described as disastrous consequences for American allies and interests. How this decision happened — springing from an “off-script moment” with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, in the words of a senior American diplomat — likely will be debated for years by historians, Middle East experts and conspiracy theorists.

But this much already is clear: Mr. Trump ignored months of warnings from his advisers about what calamities likely would ensue if he followed his instincts to pull back from Syria and abandon America’s longtime allies, the Kurds. He had no Plan B, other than to leave. The only surprise is how swiftly it all collapsed around the president and his depleted, inexperienced foreign policy team.

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And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages. To fly them out of Incirlik would be to mark the de facto end of the Turkish-American alliance. To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

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To: Drango
USA goes to war = bad.

USA stays out of war = bad

USA = bad

MSM mantra

21 posted on 10/14/2019 3:51:55 PM PDT by Don Corleone (nothing upsets the left more than the truth)
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To: Mariner

Imagine the amount of effort it takes to display that level of faux outrage day after day...


22 posted on 10/14/2019 3:52:00 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Mariner

His mistake was the way he presented it. He should have waited until Turkey attacked and then announce that he was withdrawing the troops to avoid getting stuck in the middle between the Turks and Kurds.


23 posted on 10/14/2019 3:52:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Mariner

Would Congress like to declare war?


24 posted on 10/14/2019 3:52:39 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Mariner

Calamity? Turks and Syrians killing each other has zero effect on me.


25 posted on 10/14/2019 3:53:01 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Mariner
Full court fake press - while the American people are on the exact opposite side... not giving a single flying crap what happens in Syria.

Scum, northeastern presstitutes - all of them - work for our MASSAS. It's not even left vs. right... it's slaves v owners.

Tired of getting our blood and tax money sucked out of us in the Mideast. Let the apes tribes find Jesus like us, or just let the miserable pieces of s**t just continue to kill each other like they always have....less is better.

26 posted on 10/14/2019 3:53:09 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Mariner
The Syrian Civil War is OVER. So let's go onto the next needless war for barely definable American interests Americans are not interested.
27 posted on 10/14/2019 3:53:16 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Mariner

Calamity Jane.


28 posted on 10/14/2019 3:53:28 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Mariner

Will Turkey didn’t start a war Trump did ? LOL


29 posted on 10/14/2019 3:54:14 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Mariner

Not a word about Obama’s causing the Syrian war single-handedly by supporting the Muslim Spring and the overthrow of Putin’s close ally, Assad. Not a word.

Syria is 100% Obama’s mess. It is nice to have 450 TV stations and another 700 newspapers run interference for you.


30 posted on 10/14/2019 3:55:05 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jane Long
To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

It's almost like Bacha 0bama had eight years to do that...  thinking face

31 posted on 10/14/2019 3:55:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Mariner

David E. Sanger sits behind a computer screen drinking Latte and lying for a living.

GO STAND A FKG POST ON THE NORTHERN BORDER DAVE.

It’s okay when it’s somebody else’s kid, right!?

[self edited]


32 posted on 10/14/2019 3:55:31 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Da Coyote

Well said, young man.


33 posted on 10/14/2019 3:55:31 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Mariner

YEAH? Not so much NY slimes-— what they were squealing about were their war profiteering from perpetual unsolved un won conflicts. Needing replacement arms, missiles, ammo, tank rounds, mortar rounds etc. And, cruise missiles too!

Beltway bandits.
Period— trough eating non-solution providing “service” contractors.... fat A@@ contractors.


34 posted on 10/14/2019 3:55:40 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mariner
... the abandonment of a successful five-year-long American project to keep the peace on a volatile border ...

You can always tell the bullsh!t propaganda by noting what the author of this slop DOES NOT say.

The "border" he describes here wasn't nearly so volatile before the Americans illegally occupied a sovereign country (Syria) that was perfectly capable of protecting its own borders.

35 posted on 10/14/2019 3:57:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Drango

[USA goes to war = bad.
USA stays out of war = bad]

Pretty much the only options. Unless it was Barack Hussein Obama. Then it would have been the smartest decision made by the smartest community organizer ever.


36 posted on 10/14/2019 3:57:40 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mariner
And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

"Two American officials". Sound legit.

37 posted on 10/14/2019 3:58:16 PM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: Mariner

Let’s see who is in the “calamity” when the sanctions hit Turkey.


38 posted on 10/14/2019 3:58:24 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Mariner

Trump did the right thing.


39 posted on 10/14/2019 3:58:36 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: Don Corleone

To what purpose?

To pull us into another pointless ME war that has no benefits to Americans.

All while the border remains unsecured.


40 posted on 10/14/2019 3:58:45 PM PDT by crusher2013
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