Posted on 10/14/2019 5:46:45 AM PDT by karpov
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Mrs. Pelosi took the impeachment reins away from Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler and handed them to Mr. Schiff, who has been running secret hearings as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee. Witnesses testify behind closed doors, and Democrats selectively leak the testimony or evidence to the pro-impeachment press in ways that are often distorted or incomplete. Republicans then offer a competing narrative, and the public is left to wonder what’s true. All of this is supposedly in service to the serious purpose of removing a President elected by 63 million Americans.
Mr. Schiff was challenged on his secrecy on Sunday by Margaret Brennan of CBS’s “Face the Nation,” and the Democrat’s response was extraordinary. “There’s a reason why investigations and grand jury proceedings for example, and I think this is analogous to a grand jury proceeding, are done out of the public view initially,” Mr. Schiff said. “Now we may very well call some of the same witnesses or all the same witnesses in public hearings as well. But we want to make sure that we meet the needs of the investigation and not give the President or his legal minions the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases fabricate testimony to suit their interests.”
A grand jury? As Mr. Schiff knows, a grand jury is a criminal proceeding. Impeachment is a political process in which the House defines the meaning of “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Mr. Schiff wants it both ways: Run his secret hearings like a criminal grand jury, but then impeach Mr. Trump of political offenses even if the President committed no crime.
And he wants to keep it all secret so Mr. Trump and his “legal minions”—i.e., his lawyers and the House minority—don’t have access to the evidence he will use against the President.
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Adam Schitt is running a secret "Court of the Star Chamber" with himself as judge and jury.
Maybe some Good Ole Boys will have a little proceeding of their own with Schitt for Brains.
“Secret” hearings will not convince the American people to support impeachment. The less fairness, the more the backlash.
Hoo Hummm at the end of the day, year 2020 it’ll again be the election of President Trump!
America is not ready for AmeriKa just yet.
There is no “whistle blower”. It was made up out of whole cloth.
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So much for the rights of the accused I guess. The leftist/fascist tribunals are a real thing. I thought the defense was allowed to see the prosecution's case developing - exactly so they could prepare a defense and not walk into an ambush of accusations.
Speaking of accusations. If anyone knows about fabricating testimony out of whole cloth it would be the leftists. Remember the Kavanaugh fiasco? The Russian collusion investigation? Leftists cannot be trusted, period.
You are absolutely correct.
“...and not give the President or his legal minions the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases fabricate testimony to suit their interests.”
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In other words: FISHING EXPEDITION.
They want to be able to harass everyone in DC that they think might have some juicy information, and they want to do it behind closed doors so that any beneficial, corroborating, or exculpatory information does not see the light of day.
There really should be a way to sue these blood suckers
Perhaps, but somebody had toleak details of the Ukrainian phone call to the House dems (even though they were significant inaccuracies)
What the hell is Alger Schiff up to now?
What the hell is Alger Schiff up to now?
This whole analogy of impeachment in the House as a grand jury is ridiculous.
A grand jury is made up of unbiased citizens hearing testimony presented by the prosecution.
This impeachment process is like the defendant sitting in front of a panel of prosecutors who have already decided the defendant is guilty.
Witnesses testify behind closed doors, and Democrats selectively leak the testimony or evidence to the pro-impeachment press in ways that are often distorted or incomplete. Republicans then offer a competing narrative, and the public is left to wonder what’s true.
McConnell could end this Ukraine nonsense with one phone call to Pelosi telling her the Senate will immediately compel testimony in public from every “witness” the House Dems have testify in private. Since do-nothing McConnell isn’t doing that I can only assume he too wants POTUS impeached by the House.
The Constitution does not provide for secret grand jury methods as an on-ramp for impeachment. Trump needs to sue for his Constitutionally guaranteed rights. The Constitution holds that the House has the sole power to impeach. Not the Speaker of the House, not a BS committee chairman in the House, and not any single member of the House - but the House collectively. That means a VOTE in the whole House.
His phony explanation of what the republicans will do is
EXACTLY WHAT HE ACTUALLY DOES.
Does he think we are too stupid to see that. It requires major stupidity or gigantic cajones for him to think we are not aware.
Wonder how Fat Nadler feels about Pelosi taking his toys away
Schiff wants it both ways:
<><> Run secret committees hearings like a criminal Grand Jury......
<><> then impeach Mr. Trump of political offenses even if the President committed no crime.
IOW, he's already made up his mind....Trump is guilty of something........so let's nail him.
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Schiff was challenged on his committee's unheard of secrecy and his response on Sunday talk TV was frightening:
"we want to make sure that we meet the needs of the investigation (and the hell with Pres Trump's Constitutional right to be heard).
Stalin’s Soviet show trials are back - and just like before, defendants have no rights, and have already been found guilty even before proceedings begin.
The fact that they have to do it this way shows how flimsy their “case for impeachment” really is.
Good analysis, Liz. And the longer this “impeachment” remains in a secret, closed-door, partisan committee, the more heat they’ll take.
Let ‘em have it both barrels, President Trump!
The strength of the Minnesota Rally and the Vice Premier of China’s visit to the White House made it clear: The Dems cannot defeat President Trump or throw him out of office!
Smooth sailing ahead for a truly awesome President in both fightin’ style and RESULTS!
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