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[GOPe] Metro East Congressman John Shimkus pulls Trump support after Syria decision
KMOX ^ | October 10, 2019 | Brian Kelly

Posted on 10/10/2019 11:01:37 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

ST. LOUIS (KMOX) - As the battle between Democrats and Republicans over impeachment continues on like a heatwave in August, President Trump makes moves to remove U.S. troops from Syria.

Just hours after the decision to leave Syrian Kurds to fend for themselves against Turkey, Illinois Congressman John Shimkus calls the President's decision "terrible and despicable."

Shimkus goes on to tell KMOX's Mark Reardon that he told staff "to take my name off the I support Donald Trump list" and that he is "saddened for the Kurdish people."

(Excerpt) Read more at kmox.radio.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: skimkus; trump
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To: Alter Kaker

Trump has abandoned the PKK Kurds. The Peshmerga Kurds continue to be quietly advised and supported in all ways by the US. They are superbly trained, aided by Israel as well. The PKK are a communist group of terrorists who would establish a socialist Kurdistan. Trump has left the dirty work of getting rid of them to Erdogan, if he so wishes. They are based in Turkey.


21 posted on 10/10/2019 11:32:39 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Alter Kaker

Trump has abandoned the PKK Kurds. The Peshmerga Kurds continue to be quietly advised and supported in all ways by the US. They are superbly trained, aided by Israel as well. The PKK are a communist group of terrorists who would establish a socialist Kurdistan. Trump has left the dirty work of getting rid of them to Erdogan, if he so wishes. They are based in Turkey.


22 posted on 10/10/2019 11:32:58 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Alter Kaker

Kurds? Aren’t they the ones that “walk on water”? Wait... they don’t have any water! That just okkurrd to me.

Kurds are still followers of Islam, right?

“The main religion of Kurds in Iraq and Syria would be Sunni Islam. A vast 98% of Iraqi Kurds identify as Sunni while only around 1.8% identify as Shia.”

Trump is RIGHT! Let the Muslims fight it out. Barbarian warfare. Let the barbarians settle it amongst themselves.


23 posted on 10/10/2019 11:33:22 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Alter Kaker

Trump isn’t going to be able to accomplish much more in office, even if he wins in 2020. He has very few legislators genuinely supporting him.


24 posted on 10/10/2019 11:34:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Alter Kaker

Primary him!


25 posted on 10/10/2019 11:34:34 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Dave W

Dave how long are we supposed to leave OUR OWN in danger I think 20 years is enough!!! Some of these kids over there weren’t even born when this conflict started enough is enough already!!!!


26 posted on 10/10/2019 11:35:39 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Huge unforced error. A lot of us are vets and we do not leave an ally on the field of battle,


27 posted on 10/10/2019 11:42:16 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Dave W

I think being in Syria in the first place was a mistake, at best. I suspect the reason Obamadork wanted us involved in Syria may have been more nefarious than a simple mistake. Doubling down on mistakes is generally not a good thing in my experience. I think getting out of Syria as soon as practical is a good move.


28 posted on 10/10/2019 11:42:21 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I heard there were something like 50 troops there. If that is true I would not think they could make much difference in a large conflict. If their presence is as a deterrent then they are being used as human shields. We know how that usually turns out. Remember the marines in Beirut? Reagan didn’t get the chance to bring them home while they were alive. They had no strategic value where they were and were not even good as human shields because when they died we pulled out and left the poor Lebanese to fend for themselves. In this case we won’t have to read about them dying and we won’t have to suffer the humiliation of not being able to retaliate against a co signatory of the NATO treaty.


29 posted on 10/10/2019 11:49:09 AM PDT by webheart
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To: jpsb

They should retreat then. You don’t stand naked on a battlefield just because an ally is on the field. Don’t be an idiot.


30 posted on 10/10/2019 11:53:29 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Alter Kaker

He is either totally ignorant of the situation on the ground in Syria or on the take through defense contractors. Say what? Have you guys read Neon Revolt’s lastest article on his website?

Big contracts and money being siphoned off or items never supplied.


31 posted on 10/10/2019 12:06:38 PM PDT by Lopeover (We Are #TRUMPSTRONG)
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To: Dave W

So what would you have us do - stay in northeastern Syria in perpetuity, without a clear mission or exit strategy? Our troops were initially sent to the region to assist with logistics and training, not to fight. Yet they wound up fighting (and dying) for a generation. They destroyed the ISIS caliphate and scattered the ISIS command structure. They recaptured the capital of Raqqa and gave the Kurds a wide swath of land east of the Euphrates. It is past time to withdraw, and I suggest we redeploy those troops to defend our nation’s border. And it is time for our NATO allies in Europe and the sub-Saharan continent to handle peacekeeping and maintain order. We’re 7,000 miles from Syria. Those countries are closer in proximity and have more pressing geopolitical interests than we do.


32 posted on 10/10/2019 12:08:38 PM PDT by confederatecarpetbag
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To: Savage Rider

At least the Vietnamese were (and are) not moslems.


33 posted on 10/10/2019 12:10:12 PM PDT by VietVet876
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To: Lopeover

Easy way for him to get his name in the paper!


34 posted on 10/10/2019 12:10:16 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Dave W

Regardless, I am one who does not think Trump is God and is indeed, human. He is capable of making mistakes and this is one of them. I think Trump was supremely naïve in this decision.


Indeed. Trump is only human and can mistakes. This one, however, is an easy call.

I am against it if the open borders GOPe and Dems are for it. Send America’s best to defend our borders and not the Middle East. I say that as someone initially supportive of the Iraq War.


35 posted on 10/10/2019 12:27:11 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Dave W
Trump was naive? LOL. He has been making public statements about getting U.S. troops out of Syria since before he was even a candidate for the White House.

This decision was a no-brainer, since the U.S. troops had no business occupying Syria in the first place. It’s always a no-brainer when you make a decision that outrages globalist jerks like Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin and Max Boot.

36 posted on 10/10/2019 12:28:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Vendome

You are saddened for Kurds?

Where is your sympathy for American men and women.


So much energy expended for the Kurds. So little energy expended for those Americans robbed, raped and murdered by criminal aliens. If that doesn’t say it all right there nothing does.


37 posted on 10/10/2019 12:28:37 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: jpsb

Huge unforced error. A lot of us are vets and we do not leave an ally on the field of battle,


Given the Kurds are reportedly already releasing terrorists I think it safe to say they never were real allies.


38 posted on 10/10/2019 12:30:39 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: jpsb
Using the term “ally” to describe an ethnic group that has no sovereign government is often one of the most reckless and irresponsible things you can do in foreign/military affairs.

As I’ve said before ... I can only imagine what the threads here on FR would look like if the Chinese government decided to establish diplomatic and military ties to La Raza and Black Lives Matter.

39 posted on 10/10/2019 12:33:07 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alter Kaker

So which rival Kurdish faction is it that we are supporting?

PYD/YPG?
PKK?
KDP?
KNC?
PUK?

or in English:

Democratic Union Party
Kurdistan Workers Party
Kurdistan Democratic Party
Kurdish National Council
Patriotic Union of Kurdistan

I mean if we are going to replay Bush’s foreign policy of voluntary war plus nation building, I’d at least like to know who is serving as the pretext.


40 posted on 10/10/2019 12:43:17 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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