Posted on 10/09/2019 9:49:32 AM PDT by tkocur
Turkish warplanes have bombed parts of north-eastern Syria at the start of an offensive which could lead to conflict with Kurdish-led allies of the US.
Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the operation was to create a "safe zone" cleared of Kurdish militias which will also house Syrian refugees.
The strikes have killed at least two civilians, Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) said.
The group vowed to resist any Turkish advance across the border.
It asked the US and the coalition against the jihadist group Islamic State (IS) to establish a no-fly zone in the area to stop "attacks on innocent people".
The Kurds - key US allies in defeating IS in Syria - guard thousands of IS fighters and their relatives in prisons and camps in areas under their control and it is unclear whether they will continue to be safely detained.
Turkish ground forces have been massing on the border. The offensive was launched just days after President Donald Trump controversially withdrew US troops from northern Syria, a decision announced after a phone call with Mr Erdogan that sparked widespread criticism at home and abroad.
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If Congress wants to do something about it, they can declare war as per the Constitution.
No more undeclared wars started by Presidential fiat.
UN can go save the day
Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East. Moved our 50 soldiers out. Turkey MUST take over captured ISIS fighters that Europe refused to have returned. The stupid endless wars, for us, are ending! The United States has spent EIGHT TRILLION DOLLARS fighting and policing in the Middle East. Thousands of our Great Soldiers have died or been badly wounded. Millions of people have died on the other side. GOING INTO THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE WORST DECISION EVER MADE.........IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! We went to war under a false & now disproven premise, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. There were NONE! Now we are slowly & carefully bringing our great soldiers & military home. Our focus is on the BIG PICTURE! THE USA IS GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE!
Turkey represent NATO ... in their latest Turkish genocide.
“We are helping the Kurds financially/weapons!”
Give the Kurds MANPADS
and a CAP with an aerial exclusion zone
F Turkey ....remember their blocking of the 4th ID, thus endangering the 173d AB
I heard somewhere that the total number of troops we actually removed was 25.
When entire Christian communities were being displaced/murdered by ISIS in Iraq with Obama, the MSM was silent. Of course, only the US can provide security to this border (but not our own borders). Europe is no where to be found and Turkey is a NATO member. Complicated business...
U.S. Effectively Blocks Turkey From Operating In Syrian Airspace
"The Pentagon stated on Monday that Turkey has been removed from the “air tasking order” employed by members of the anti-Islamic State coalition operating in Syria."
"This means Turkish planes will have considerable difficulty entering Syrian airspace to support the invasion threatened by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and will not benefit from surveillance data collected by the coalition."
I heard somewhere that the total number of troops we actually removed was 25.
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I don’t think you’re reading that on mainstream media outlets. What you will be reading is how President Trump is solely responsible for thousands of Kurdish deaths.
Blah, blah, blah.
HOUSE Syrian refugees. Turkey has 2 million Syrian refugees. Those are getting sent home or they're getting sent to Europe with some coming to the US. I want them to go back to Syria and not here.
At the same time, I don't want our Kurdish allies killed. There are Kurdish groups that are terrorists, communists, etc. We shouldn't be supporting them.
“and a CAP with an aerial exclusion zone”
Those planes are based at Incirlik in Turkey...So, this might be a bit awkward.
Maybe it is bait to draw Erdogan into a mess that will crash his economy and doom his regime.
US forces have problems with door-to-door kick-ins urban warfare to extract the enemy. Losses would be staggering. US forces also seem to have a problem with taking out the human shields the enemy is currently using in order to kill the enemy.
Bring in Turkey. They got no problem with taking out the enemy along with the human shields, cats, dogs, whatever’s in the way.
Fake news. Turkey has been down there. The fighting has been going on. Its just not been noticed. Now Trump is pulling 50 people out. And people notice. The press yells that there is all of a sudden fighting going on. It was there. The US did not pull out yet. There is no difference in the situation from last week. This is fake news. Yes there is fighting. It was there before. Its there now. Its just not our fight. We are just the arms dealers. We are the ones who make all the weapons. We even buy the weapons and given them to the combatants. And the 50 people down there are showing the combatants how to use them. Don’t listen to these stories. Its just propaganda from the CIA and arms dealers.
Who is winning?
If they take off and turn south then they'll eventually be in Syria. How difficult is that?
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