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Lawmaker Wants To Make Gun-Free Zones Liable If Someone Hurt
CAP CON A Michigan News Source ^ | Sept. 27, 2019 | By Tom Gantert

Posted on 10/06/2019 4:34:45 PM PDT by imardmd1

State Rep. Gary Eisen, R-St. Clair Township, introduced House Bill 4975, which would revoke governmental immunity from lawsuits arising from injuries sustained on government property where guns are banned. Eisen is also the sponsor of House Bill 4976, which would make a government, business or individual that designates a property a gun-free zone responsible for the safety of individuals who enter it.

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Eisen said part of the rationale for his bill lies with a report that 98% of mass public shootings happen in gun-free zones. The Washington Post reported that President Donald Trump recited that statistic in a May 4 speech to the National Rifle Association.

The Washington Post said the figure comes from the Crime Prevention Research Center’s updated 2014 report. That report stated that 98.4 percent of mass shootings from 1950 to July 10, 2016, happened in gun-free zones.

“We call them killing zones, not gun-free zones,” Eisen said.

(Excerpt) Read more at michigancapitolconfidential.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunfreelaw; gunfreezone; killzone; liability; proprietor
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Bills would remove governmental immunity, make private zone owners responsible for security

1 posted on 10/06/2019 4:34:45 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: imardmd1

When you see what’s roaming around these days, who wants to go anywhere.


2 posted on 10/06/2019 4:38:10 PM PDT by Maudeen (The surest fact in all the world is not death but the return of the Lord Jesus Christ.)
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To: imardmd1

Makes sense to me - why did it take this long to get this going?


3 posted on 10/06/2019 4:38:28 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: imardmd1

About time! Be responsible for your gun free zone. O. Rainer.


4 posted on 10/06/2019 4:38:42 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: imardmd1

Sounds about right to me IF it’s what the law calls a “public accommodation”, i.e., IF the premises welcome the general public to their business/institution.

Yours, TMN78247


5 posted on 10/06/2019 4:40:43 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: imardmd1

I think they should be liable.

If you deprive people of the means to defend themselves, then you must assume responsibility for their safety and you are liable if you fail to protect them.


6 posted on 10/06/2019 4:41:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: imardmd1

“We call them killing zones, not gun-free zones,” Eisen said.

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Even though I live in Texas, I think I’ll send this guy a campaign contribution.


7 posted on 10/06/2019 4:43:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: PROCON; carriage_hill

Ping.

I’m still hoping that commercial liability insurance underwriters will soon make “gun free zones” unaffordable, or, better uninsurable.


8 posted on 10/06/2019 4:45:05 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: imardmd1
Excerpts from another blogger that quoted this article is as follows:

Michigan Bill Would Put Gun-Free Zone On The Hook For Injuries (click here)

"The Supreme Court has ruled that the authorities have no duty to protect you as an individual. The police’s job is to protect society as a whole, not you as a person. Honestly, that’s fine with me. While I respect police officers, by and large, I also recognize that the only way they could protect me as a person is to walk side-by-side with me all the time and I’m someone who likes my privacy.

Where this becomes a problem, though, is in gun-free zones.
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So far, there are only two co-sponsors on the bill from what I can see, though that might well change. If you’re in Michigan, you may want to reach out to your House representative and tell them you want them to co-sponsor this bill.

After all, if you’re going to be forced to disarm yourself to someone else can have the illusion of safety, the least they can do is put their money where their mouth is. If “gun-free zone” signs are effective, then it shouldn’t matter if they’re liable for injuries, right? Of course, we all know better. More importantly, though, they know better too, which is why I promise you that none of the gun control groups are going to say anything close to support for this bill."

Michiganders, he needs more co-sponsors!
9 posted on 10/06/2019 4:47:40 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: lightman
Trouble is, they might make carrying a gun--open or concealed--unaffordable also, if it became a law like auto insurance.

Take heed!

10 posted on 10/06/2019 4:50:32 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Yes!!!


11 posted on 10/06/2019 4:58:10 PM PDT by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: Maudeen
When you see what’s roaming around these days, who wants to go anywhere.

You are correct. Just because I carry concealed that does not mean I don't have to think about where I'm going to go if it puts me in harm's way.

Let trouble come to me on my terms, I'm not going to go looking for it on theirs.

12 posted on 10/06/2019 5:09:12 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

GOOD IDEA.

Take away 2nd amendment rights? Then you must pay for the damage caused.


13 posted on 10/06/2019 5:09:44 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: lightman

Uninsurable would be the best route, but a lot of the economy would collapse, I’m thinking.


14 posted on 10/06/2019 5:13:21 PM PDT by carriage_hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: imardmd1

When it comes to these mass public shootings, there is no guarantee a good guy with a gun will save the day, but without one, the bad guy can just have his way.

If the six dead people at Sandy Hook could have a do-over, you can bet to a one, they would have preferred to have face young Adam Lanza with a gun of their own.


15 posted on 10/06/2019 5:14:44 PM PDT by umgud
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To: imardmd1

People need to be reminded, (most, told for the first time) about Gropin’ Joe’s part in creating the School fish barrels


16 posted on 10/06/2019 5:24:34 PM PDT by digger48
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To: imardmd1
98.4 percent of mass shootings from 1950 to July 10, 2016, happened in gun-free zones.

DUH!

If you're a shooter intent on mayhem wouldn't you look for a place with the least chance of injuring yourself?

17 posted on 10/06/2019 5:25:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Democraps say the President is out of control. They mean the President of out of THEIR control.)
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To: All

Let’s roll!


18 posted on 10/06/2019 5:25:34 PM PDT by pke
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To: imardmd1

Joe Biden was the author of the “gun free zone” law.
Bush 41 signed it.
I have mentioned this at least a dozen times and nobody gives a shiff.


19 posted on 10/06/2019 5:41:53 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: imardmd1

Uh, negative!


20 posted on 10/06/2019 5:43:07 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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