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GOP senators attack whistleblower's credibility
The Hill ^ | 09/30/19 06:00 AM EDT 13,753 | ALEXANDER BOLTON

Posted on 09/30/2019 10:36:02 AM PDT by robowombat

GOP senators attack whistleblower's credibility

GOP senators attack whistleblower's credibility BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 09/30/19 06:00 AM EDT 13,753

Republican senators scrambling to protect President Trump from a formal impeachment inquiry are attacking the credibility of the whistleblower who filed a complaint.

GOP lawmakers are asserting the whistleblower did not have firsthand knowledge of the actions detailed in the complaint and question whether the person had a political agenda.

“It doesn’t come from a person with personal knowledge. It’s like I heard these people say this, and now I’m reporting it. I think that is pretty bizarre,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas).

“Secondly, after a certain point, it doesn’t just allege facts, it really is kind of a dossier or political diatribe, so I think there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical. Having said that, we are in the process of talking to the director of national intelligence and the inspector general.”

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), who has had a reputation for protecting whistleblowers, said the one at the center of the Trump impeachment inquiry didn’t necessarily deserve protections.

“If they are not really a whistleblower, they don’t get the protection,” he said.

The remarks from Grassley, Cornyn and other senators echo arguments coming from Trump, but stand in stark contrast to the testimony last week from acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, who said the whistleblower acted in good faith.

“I think the whistleblower did the right thing,” Maguire told the House Intelligence Committee.

But Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said reading the whistleblower’s complaint “makes me more suspicious about how all this happened.”

“I want to know who was the person that went to the whistleblower,” he said.

Graham said that whistleblowers typically report witnessing basic facts and firsthand evidence and raised concern about what some Republicans see as a not-so-subtle attempt to draw up a criminal indictment of Trump.

“This was a fairly sophisticated effort to write a narrative rather than blow a whistle,” he said.

A Senate Republican aide predicted that the whistleblower’s name will likely become public either because that person will agree to testify publicly or the name will leak to the press.

The attacks on the whistleblower come with high stakes, as GOP leaders see their political fate as closely tied to Trump’s in next year’s elections.

Several Republican lawmakers publicly and privately acknowledged over the past week that the content of the transcript of a July 25 call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which Trump urged Ukrainian officials to investigate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, was damaging.

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) called the transcript “troubling in the extreme” while Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), who recently secured Trump’s endorsement for reelection, warned “there’s obviously lots that’s very troubling here.”

A handful of Republicans have expressed shock that Trump released the transcript of the president’s conversation with Zelensky and an unredacted version of the whistleblower complaint, fearing it gave Democrats ammunition.

A GOP senator who requested anonymity to discuss party strategy said that White House officials and GOP leaders decided the damaging information was likely to become public anyway and thought the best strategy was to get it out early so Republicans could then have a chance to wage a counteroffensive.

“This was all going to become public. The thought was the sooner it does, the better. Get it all out quickly,” the lawmaker said.

And other Republicans offered other surprise defenses of Trump.

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) compared Trump’s conduct to a police officer who beats up a suspect while arresting them.

“This is the way I analyze this ... I look at this like a guy robs a bank and on the way to jail the cops beat the bejesus out of him.” Kennedy said. “Should cops beat the bejesus out of suspects? No. Should it be investigated? Yes. But you can’t ignore the alleged bank robbery either."

As part of that counteroffensive strategy, Republican lawmakers have sought to shift the public focus off of Trump and onto Biden.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters Thursday that it was perfectly acceptable for Trump to ask Zelensky to participate in a Department of Justice investigation of what role Biden and his son Hunter Biden, a paid board member to a Ukrainian gas company, might have had in quashing a Ukrainian corruption investigation.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said Trump has a responsibility “as the head law enforcement official of the nation” to delve into efforts by U.S. officials to interfere in foreign corruption investigations and to probe efforts from abroad to interfere in U.S. elections.

One of the controversial subjects Trump alluded to in his conversation with Zelensky was an allegation that a Russia-orchestrated hacking of the Democratic National Committee in 2016 was conducted in Ukraine. There has been little evidence to substantiate that claim.

Johnson sees Trump’s interest in Biden’s Ukraine connections and Ukraine’s alleged role in meddling in the 2016 election as legitimate law enforcement interests.

GOP leaders have sought to tamp down criticism of Trump from their ranks, mindful that that unity among rank-and-file members is crucial to maintaining their political strength, a point that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) frequently makes to colleagues.

Graham, one of Trump’s staunchest allies, told reporters on Wednesday that Romney was the only senator to voice concerns about Trump’s conduct at a private lunch meeting of the Senate Republican Steering Committee.

And Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), another Trump ally, sought to portray Romney as a disgruntled outlier. “Mitt Romney doesn’t like the president and he’s going to say a lot of things I don’t agree with,” he said.

The White House in recent days has worked closely to coordinate its defense with allies on Capitol Hill.

A White House aide accidentally sent a copy of its talking point for Republican lawmakers to Democratic offices on Wednesday.

The document argued that Trump made no quid-pro-quo request to Zelensky and discussed Biden only after Zelensky initiated the conversation about corruption-related issues.

The talking points also shifted scrutiny to the whistleblower by arguing the “real scandal” was that Trump’s confidential conversation with a foreign leader was leaked to the press.

The document reflected Johnson’s argument that it was proper for Trump to ask a foreign leader to investigate any connection between his country and attempted interference in the 2016 election.

Republicans strategists acknowledge their prospects in the 2020 election, when control of the Senate as well as the White House and House will be up for grabs, are closely tied to Trump’s.

A Republican strategist working on a congressional campaign in Iowa said that, for example, while Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), who is up for reelection, has a strong independent brand and could outperform Trump by a few points, she would likely lose if Trump lost her state by 5 points or more.

Ernst has said the investigation of the whistleblower’s complaint should be handled on a bipartisan basis by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Another GOP tactic has been to portray the Democrats as dead-set on impeachment regardless of what any investigation of the whistleblower’s complaint turns up.

This line of argument has been spearheaded by McConnell.

“We know that House Democrats have been indulging in their impeachment obsession for nearly three years now, a never-ending impeachment parade in search of a rationale,” he said on the Senate floor the morning after Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced the launch of a formal impeachment inquiry.

McConnell pointed out that on the day of Trump’s inauguration, The Washington Post ran a headline stating, “The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun.”


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To: Zack Attack
I have never had ANY confidence in Horowitz and I don't see that changing. As far as I'm concerned he is STONEWALLING the report's release. Should've been done by now!

And where is Barr? There are probably people involved in this Whistleblower SHAM who don't have the appropriate security clearances to discuss or WRITE WHISTLEBLOWER'S COMPLAINTS ABOUT PRIVILEGED AND CLASSIFIED discussions between foreign leaders and the President of the United States!

Barr should be INDICTING people as I write this!

And Mitch McConnell should know better. HOW CAN HE POSSIBLY CONTEMPLATE AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IN THE SENATE IF NANCY PELOSI FAILED TO TAKE AN OFFICIAL VOTE ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE? TOTAL FRAUD!

41 posted on 09/30/2019 11:47:37 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: robowombat

Would be nice if President Trump FIRED GINA HASPEL.


42 posted on 09/30/2019 11:48:00 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: wiseprince

Trump really does have to stop endorsing swamp creatures.
He is making our part of draining the swamp very hard by doing so.


43 posted on 09/30/2019 11:50:24 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Louis Foxwell

That’s what I said. :D


44 posted on 09/30/2019 11:50:48 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Publik Ed/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming. Infinitum.)
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To: robowombat

The Pubbies need SPINE!!


45 posted on 09/30/2019 11:50:57 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Maris Crane
Gina Haspel could well be involved in this SHAM.

I have read that she was in London about the time the Dossier appeared by the hand of Christopher Steel.

I think I'll file a WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT! Where's my Whistleblower complaint form where I can express my HEARSAY?

46 posted on 09/30/2019 11:51:03 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: odawg

Maguire is part of the DEEP STATE!


47 posted on 09/30/2019 11:52:27 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Maris Crane
ALSO, PRIOR TO HER HEADING THE CIA Gina Haspel was previously appointed/promoted by JOHN BRENNAN.

Trump.. WAKE UP! IGNORE YOUR HANDLERS.

48 posted on 09/30/2019 11:53:12 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Trump really does have to stop endorsing swamp creatures.

President Trump has to stop listening to the REPUBLICANS that are advising him to endorse these swamp creatures!

49 posted on 09/30/2019 11:53:52 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: robowombat
Republican senators scrambling to protect President Trump

Editorializing right at the start of the article. How about you just report what they told us?

The memo has gone out - this is the same thing just said during the "news break" from CBS while Rush was in commercial about how the Republicans in a bad position because what Trump did is a serious problem...which of course it wasn't. One lie after another. It is never going to stop.

And the media / Dems just stick with the original narrative they crafted about the "allegations" the "whistleblower" made about the contents of the call as though the transcript hasn't been released and that we need to take the allegations "seriously" - for what purpose? We have the transcript of the actual call!

50 posted on 09/30/2019 11:54:00 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
One lie after another. It is never going to stop.

No it won't. I liked RUSH's idea about Trump saying he is working for America and count the days the Dems have done nothing but launch lie filled attacks.

51 posted on 09/30/2019 11:56:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: CivilWarBrewing

It’s maddening, isn’t it?


52 posted on 09/30/2019 11:57:47 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: robowombat
LET THEM GO AHEAD AND IMPEACH TRUMP.... HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS THEN...
By: Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD, (Political Science)

I have a degree in Political Science, and I am a card-carrying
Libertarian. I've been studying politics and political history for the past
30 years. My specialty is U.S. Presidents. That said, I hope that the House
of Representatives impeaches Trump. Let me tell you what will happen next!

1. The House can pass articles of impeachment over the objections of the
Republicans, and refer to the Senate for trial.

2. The Senate will conduct a trial. There will be a vote, and the
Republicans will vote unanimously, along with a small number of Democrats,
to not convict the President. Legally, it will all be over at that point.

3. However, during the trial, and this is what no one is thinking about
right now, the President's attorneys will have the right to subpoena and
question ANYONE THEY WANT.. That is different than the special counsel
investigation, which was very one-sided. So, during the impeachment trial,
we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page,
Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch,
Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a
whole host of other participants in this whole sordid affair and the
ensuing cover up activities.

A lot of dirt will be dug up; a lot of truth will be unveiled. Finger
pointing will occur. Deals will start being made, and suddenly, a lot of
democrats will start being charged and going to prison.

All this, because, remember, the President's team will now, for the first
time, have the RIGHT to question all of these people under oath – and they
will turn on each other. That is already starting.

4. Lastly, one more thing will happen, the Senate will not convict the
President. Nothing will happen to Trump. Most Americans are clueless about
political processes, the law, and the Constitution. Most Americans believe
that being impeached results in removal from office. They don't understand
that phase 2 is a trial in and by the Senate, where he has zero chance of
conviction.
 
Remember, the Senate is controlled by Republicans; they will
determine what testimony is allowed -- and **everything** will be allowed,
including: DNC collusion with the Clinton campaign to fix the election in
favor of Hillary, the creation of the Trump dossier, the cover up and
destruction of emails that very likely included incriminating information.
They will incriminate each other for lying to the FISA court, for spying
and wiretapping the Trump campaign, and for colluding with foreign
political actors, especially George Soros. After the Senate declines to
convict the President, we will have an election, and Trump will win.
 
It will be a backlash against democrat petulance, temper tantrums, hypocrisy and
dishonesty. Even minorities will vote for Trump, because, for the first
time, they will see that democrats have spent 2+ years focused on
maintaining their own power, and not doing anything at all about black
murders in Chicago, homelessness, opioids, and other important issues that
are actually killing people. And, we will spend the following four years
listening to politicians and pundits claim that the whole impeachment was
rigged.

So let's move on to impeachment.

Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD

53 posted on 09/30/2019 12:00:16 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

I received this same info/article, in an email, yesterday.

Where did you come across this, if you don’t mind saying.

Thanks.


54 posted on 09/30/2019 12:03:07 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Maris Crane
BEYOND maddening!

For well over two years I have said the Deep State is attempting to CRIMINALIZE TRUMP'S AUTHORITY and that is what this is all about!

Trump needs to roll up his sleeves, MEET WITH BARR AND START ISSUING SUBPOENAS AND/OR INDICTMENTS!

55 posted on 09/30/2019 12:07:48 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Maris Crane
WHERE'S MY WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT FORM?!! I WANT TO REPORT ADAMA DIP-SCHIFF AND HERE'S MY EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM for attempting to INTERFERE IN THE ELECTION!:

Russian Comedians Prank Called Rep. Adam Schiff, Promised Him Naked Photos Of Trump

56 posted on 09/30/2019 12:14:19 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: robowombat

Whistle Blower or SPY?

And does it even matter after the transcript was released?

It only matters if Dims try to use ANYTHING in the complaint that is not clearly in the transcript.

Then that Blower will be SUBPOENAED to testify. In front of God and everbody. On the nationwide Tee Vee.

And he will have to NAME his sources and anyone else who helped him put together the complaint, or offered him advice.

His character will also be a fair issue, as will his political activities and biases.

And, what was his assigned mission at the White House, and who gave him the assignment?

Did he ever have contact, before September 20th, with any elected person, or one of their staffers or lawyers?

Was he providing ongoing information to ANYONE while assigned to the WH?


57 posted on 09/30/2019 12:35:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: fireman15

The person who put this out is a lying leaker.

Both the Russia claim and the Ukraine claim are false, and Democrats know it. However, had they been true, the alleged Russian situation would be more serious than the alleged Ukraine situation.

The the Democrats want to impeach over this shows that they intended to impeach from the moment President Trump was elected.


58 posted on 09/30/2019 1:52:13 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: robowombat
“...I think the whistleblower did the right thing,” Maguire told the House Intelligence Committee..."

I wonder if Maguire, in his position, has any choice but to say that. I don't know the guy from Adam, but I do know that people in positions like this have their hands tied on subjects like sexual harassment, discrimination, and whistle blowing.

I wonder if he had much choice. Just speculating, I don't know. I would hope in an issue of this gravity that he didn't just rubber stamp it and move it up the chain.

59 posted on 09/30/2019 2:16:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: rktman

You were just avoiding “the n in the word”.


60 posted on 09/30/2019 2:23:32 PM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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