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Posted on 09/22/2019 9:42:58 AM PDT by 4Liberty

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To: entropy12

The firm I work for hasn’t hired an American in years.


141 posted on 09/23/2019 9:05:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You don’t know diddly squat about what kind of work I did for the employer. Therefore your opinion is not worth much.


142 posted on 09/23/2019 9:06:11 AM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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To: entropy12

A Thank You right back at you.

You have written what I meant. We can’t keep complaining if, BIG IF, we are hurting in the tech world for competent people, we can’t wave a magic wand and produce American skilled workers. Concentrating on “learning to code” as an umbrella of where our priorities should be. STAT.


143 posted on 09/23/2019 9:08:48 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: central_va

So explain why I was one of the first here on FR to jump on the train of America First nationalist Donald J Trump candidate as soon as I heard his speech declaring run for presidency?

Go check my posts from 2015 & 2016.


144 posted on 09/23/2019 9:10:20 AM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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To: central_va; grey_whiskers
Silicon Valley oligarchs go before Congress and cry they are losing the competition to China for want of programmers or stem graduates. They may be lying, they may simply be truthfully recounting a problem which they themselves caused by their own importation of foreign workers, either way, they certainly have a motive to lie, a profit motive.

You come to this forum and you say, "I am the data." I believe every word you say but you are not the data you are an anecdote.

We are still no closer to knowing what to do. If you are right in your assertion that merely shutting the door would solve the problem, of course that is the way to go. But if you are wrong, we are put at a severe disadvantage against China, not to mention the eclipse of our economy.

With those stakes, don't you think we need some data upon which to decide?


145 posted on 09/23/2019 9:10:24 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: grey_whiskers

HAHAHAHAHAHA...you are so wrong it is simply pathetic.

Because of my work at the American company in Chicago, my company out-competed Japanese outfits producing similar machines as we did. My company stayed in business during my 25 years there and retained 1000 employees, overwhelmingly all Americans.


146 posted on 09/23/2019 9:15:17 AM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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To: nathanbedford
We are still no closer to knowing what to do.

I keep hearing if wages for doctors go down they ( Americans not imported h-1B) will stop getting the training or end the current practices. It the same for STEM. Sometimes common sense needs no data.

147 posted on 09/23/2019 9:17:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nathanbedford

Your facts and figures infused posts are much appreciated instead of anecdotal frustrations of other individuals.


148 posted on 09/23/2019 9:17:49 AM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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To: nathanbedford

OMG. I the the rest of your post LOL. You have given up on the US being able to create the STEM workforce we need. This is what I am talking about.


149 posted on 09/23/2019 9:21:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: entropy12

You are not on board the nationalist pro American agenda so why did you do that? to derail the train?


150 posted on 09/23/2019 9:23:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nathanbedford

I’ll reply later, thx.


151 posted on 09/23/2019 9:32:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: central_va
LOL

Every time I see, LOL, I think COL, for crying out loud. Which one do you think advances the debate more -or less?


152 posted on 09/23/2019 9:35:19 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: 4Liberty

Modi visit to Houston backdrop for one of the largest LNG deals in U.S. history
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3780406/posts


153 posted on 09/23/2019 12:34:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: central_va

No one alive in USA is more pro-America than me. I trust PDJT’s instincts to do the right thing on EVERY issue including the H1-B visa issue which gets your panties tied in a knot.


154 posted on 09/23/2019 1:51:45 PM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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To: entropy12
without the gov’t micro-managing how they should operate.

Nothing "micro" about "hire American." A capitalist country requires a middle class, not a Third World serf class.

155 posted on 09/23/2019 7:17:04 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Perhaps the converse is the case: the influx of foreigners has occurred because of a scarcity of domestic talent.

Not so - there are 3.5 million un- or underemployed US-born STEM-educated workers.

156 posted on 09/23/2019 7:24:09 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: nathanbedford

https://cis.org/Miano/H1B-Cap-Reached-New-Study-Shows-US-Not-Falling-Behind-STEM-Education
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3744847/posts?page=26#26


157 posted on 09/23/2019 7:40:27 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Not gov’t prerogative to demand who PRIVATE SECTOR should hire, how much CEO pay is allowed, how many black Americans must be hired, etc.

If you can’t compete with foreign workers, that is your problem, not the private sector or the gov’t.

America is creating more millionaires every year than in any country. If you have brains, join that group instead of whining about protectionism and placing restriction on PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

But if it is a gov’t job, paid by tax payers, THEN gov’t can dictate whom they can hire.


158 posted on 09/24/2019 5:25:13 AM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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To: entropy12
If you can’t compete with foreign workers, that is your problem, not the private sector or the gov’t.

If the private sector is eating its seed corn by prioritizing short-term payroll savings over longer-term employee output value - and thereby undermining the middle class on which a stable successful nation and economy depend - then it is very much the business of government.

Certainly government must go beyond merely stopping the bleeding to ask if government itself is in some way inflicting the wound ... but stop the bleeding it must, notwithstanding any narrow-minded "free market"-uber-alles ideology.

159 posted on 09/24/2019 9:23:35 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Stop worrying about the private sector. If an outfit is stupid, they will soon go out of business. There are plenty of smart entrepreneurs out there. Capitalism is great in weeding out the stupid. We really do not want government setting wages, race preferences, gender preferences, etc. Our government (federal,state, local) are the most inefficient outfits out there. Nothing works efficiently and cost effectively in gov’t. I have seen it from inside!

My sincere advice to you is acquire skills which are in demand. Unless you are already old (over age 50) you have time to improve your job market value. One area I would look into is investment banking/brokers. Big money there.


160 posted on 09/24/2019 9:35:47 AM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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