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The Ridiculous Anti-Vaping Crusade
The National Review ^ | September 20, 2019 | RICH LOWRY

Posted on 09/21/2019 8:50:09 AM PDT by kingu

Never before has a boon to public health been met with such hysteria and ingratitude.

Vaping is almost all upside in comparison with traditional smoking, a wanton destroyer of health and lives, and yet the nation is in the grip of a panic about e-cigarettes.

In a rarity for the Trump era, the anti-vaping sentiment jumps traditional geographic and political bounds, running from the Oval Office to San Francisco, from President Donald Trump to his most fervent enemies.

Trump announced a Food and Drug Administration ban on flavored e-cigarettes last week, while not too long ago the San Francisco Board of Supervisors banned the sale of vaping products at retail outlets and — seemingly more persnickety about this than, say, the use of heroin or public defecation — prohibited their delivery to addresses in the city.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: governmentcontrol; hysteria; vaping
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To: TennesseeLogic17

none taken.


121 posted on 09/21/2019 2:52:29 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Drango

If people like the look and feel of vaping why can’t they do it without using nicotine? The companies wouldn’t like it because it wouldn’t be addictive but people could still enjoy the flavors.


122 posted on 09/21/2019 2:53:04 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The attempted coup against President Trump is/was TREASON.)
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123 posted on 09/21/2019 3:33:53 PM PDT by nevadapatriot
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To: null and void

I am not sure what these folks are doing, but doesn’t it seem odd that this is blowing up all at once? Vaping has been around for a while.

When this is all done, they will find people misusing the machines and adding crap where it doesn’t belong.


124 posted on 09/21/2019 4:05:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Rurudyne

Counter

We have Freepers who are smoke Nazis.....zealots...obnoxious frankly

And judging by their posts they hate marijuana

I say smoke em both if you got em

But leave cigarettes by 30 and don’t be a marihuana parody like sean penn in FTARH or Brad Pitt in True Romance


125 posted on 09/21/2019 4:26:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Teens are gonna smoke, or vape. It’s a fact of life. If they vape they’re not gonna suck death sticks. Bad for RJR and friends!
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You do know that a significant number of smart/wise teens neither smoke nor vape. In the future they will likely look back and thank themselves for that decision. Many of the smokers and vapers may instead look back on their decisions with regret.


126 posted on 09/21/2019 4:51:04 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: fireman15
Wouldn't be the first time a big wheel bought into a small one. They usually do so with the intent to wreck it.

61 ? How long was she on the death sticks? I know damn well she didn't pick up vapin at 55!

Stop blaming things! They are just things! Inanimate!

Blame yer rotten SIL, and keep yer nanny state doo gooder nose outta others lives!

127 posted on 09/21/2019 7:07:12 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Drango
We WILL regulate/restrict/tax vaping till childhood addiction is fixed. Full stop.

Bet it's gonna be just as effective as the war on drugs, or the prohibition on alcohol!

That aint gonna be shinola on yer jack boots, and ya aint gonna be able to sit down for a long time!

128 posted on 09/21/2019 7:14:35 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Pelham
Diacetyl aka popcorn butter flavor.

Microwave popcorn factory workers first came down with it from repeated inhalation exposure to this butter flavor.

Not sure why anyone would want to vape it. It's pretty common knowledge amongst vape users.

They probably got it from China. Years ago i bought a few liquids from there. They put menthol in the bubblegum! I thought maybe they goofed and ordered another lil bottle. More menthol. If they are weird enough to put menthol in a bubblegum flavor, I wouldn't put it past them to use diacetyl.

129 posted on 09/21/2019 7:30:08 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: wardaddy

No, I said she is 62 and looks 82 due to her extreme and too rapid weight loss caused by the COPD. She was diagnosed a year ago.


130 posted on 09/21/2019 7:42:08 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Emphysema is lumped together with other respiratory problems as COPD these days.


131 posted on 09/21/2019 7:43:40 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Her siblings have had plenty of conversations with her. We know she created the problem. I know she was in better shape when she smoked and didn’t vape.


132 posted on 09/21/2019 7:45:49 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Wiser now

You are creating a causal relationship, when they are coincident.

The cancer that is killing your sister is causing her weight loss. I don’t mean to be grim—vaping doesn’t cause weight loss like that.


133 posted on 09/21/2019 8:38:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: kingu
If somebody makes a "Bathtub Gin" flavor I'm buying it!

/humor breaK

134 posted on 09/21/2019 9:52:43 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: david1292
...these vape products contain nicotine.

Not all vape products contain nicotine.

disposable e cigarette no nicotine

vape juice no nicotine

You really are misinformed and you're passing on bad information with your ignorance.

135 posted on 09/21/2019 9:57:53 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Drango
Vaping has turned thousands of kids into addicts who can’t quit.

What if they're using the products without nicotine?
What is there to get addicted to?

136 posted on 09/21/2019 10:00:08 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: CodeToad
Vaping products can easily exceed 30mg as people treat those things like pacifiers and continuously vape and are able to select how strong their vaping liquid is.

Yeah, they can even choose a product with 0 mg of nicotine.

Kind of destroys your narrative, doesn't it.

137 posted on 09/21/2019 10:11:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Blame yer rotten SIL, and keep yer nanny state doo gooder nose outta others lives!

Hey genius! I do blame my sister-in-law for destroying her health. But irresponsible idiots somehow always scream about how they need their freedom until they f**k themselves up and then they want the rest of us to take care of them.

And believe me... I spent 25 years waiting hand and foot on people who screwed their own lives up. There is no good reason for products that do nothing but wreck people's lives to be on store shelves. And to allow billion dollar industries to push this kind of crap on the public using modern advertising techniques is nonsense. So take your nasty rhetoric and waste it on someone else. I've seen how this goes over and over again.

138 posted on 09/21/2019 11:01:00 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: philman_36

Yeah. Then they’re not getting addicted.


139 posted on 09/22/2019 4:54:13 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: kingu

I have never vaped anything but I am guessing that some people are getting nicotine poisoning from overdoing their nicotine vaping. And they can abuse and increase their nicotine intake precisely because vaping is much less irritating and less harsh on the lungs than cigarette smoke.


140 posted on 09/22/2019 5:09:49 AM PDT by dennisw
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