Posted on 09/21/2019 8:50:09 AM PDT by kingu
Never before has a boon to public health been met with such hysteria and ingratitude.
Vaping is almost all upside in comparison with traditional smoking, a wanton destroyer of health and lives, and yet the nation is in the grip of a panic about e-cigarettes.
In a rarity for the Trump era, the anti-vaping sentiment jumps traditional geographic and political bounds, running from the Oval Office to San Francisco, from President Donald Trump to his most fervent enemies.
Trump announced a Food and Drug Administration ban on flavored e-cigarettes last week, while not too long ago the San Francisco Board of Supervisors banned the sale of vaping products at retail outlets and — seemingly more persnickety about this than, say, the use of heroin or public defecation — prohibited their delivery to addresses in the city.
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COPD is chronic obstructive lung disease. It basically covers asthma, bronchitis, and emphysema. It’s an umbrella term, and it can cover a very broad range of conditions.
Which will kill us first, vaping or Climate Change?
Trhy Bactine - no sting no stain.
Yes you can vape without a huge cloud. It’s a different method. The big cloud people probably wouldn’t like it.
Probably climate change with me because I don’t vape.
I do not really have dog in this fight, other than my loser relatives who are sick or already have died from their bad habits. But most end up with debilitating conditions that are not covered by insurance and spend the last years of their lives in hospitals and facilities that are paid for either completely by the government after their funds are depleted as a ward of the state. Typically if they have a spouse, a legal divorce is obtained so that the couple's funds are not completely sucked dry. The few that have catastrophic insurance that covers them raise the rates for everyone else. So everyone else pays regardless.
From this perspective the plus side is that many people chop 10, 20, 30, or more years off of their lives and never are able to collect what money they might have gotten from social security or some type of retirement plan. But considering that the state often pays for years of expensive care that drags on and on... Whatever savings this loss of life might have resulted in is usually sucked up by the money spent on medical care.
Stupidity has always been a human tragedy however, so you probably can't regulate or tax it away.
That just wouldn’t happen. Because smoking is a significantly less pleasant experience than vaping. I could smoke a cigarette right now, it wouldn’t lead me back to smoking. It sucks compared to a vape. It stinks, it makes you cough, it has a stew of carcinogenic chemicals. Just wouldn’t happen. Maybe if vapes were unavailable, like how they get people addicted to Oxycontin and then cut’em off so they go out and get heroin as a sub.
“they made their choices and can live, or die, with the consequences.
“It isn’t the nation’s responsibility to make sure people’s lives don’t suck. Even dire circumstances aren’t delegations of power to permit the federal to do anything about them.
“That’s true if their lungs are falling apart because of something they chose to do”
The federal government has the power to regulate commerce, including banning any and all forms of commercial vaping products. And even if years of vaping use of a particular product by millions proves its safety.
In 1943, the US Supreme Court included home grown products in the scope of federal power.
There is also a famous marijuana case Gonzales v. Raich.
“like how they get people addicted to Oxycontin”
Look at the lawyers’ signs:
“Injured?”
Pain and suffering is where the big legal money is.
And if you are in serious pain, or need to pretend to be to get your lawsuit lottery jackpot, you take a serious pain reducer - Oxycontin.
And without vaping, they’d just be new smokers.
Rich Lowry finally wrote something worth reading.
No, they do not have those powers.
They have pulled them from their asses by manipulating the meaning of words completely apart to the exercise of the origional right, of what those that Ratified agreed to, and pretending they have that authority.
The whole of the modern Court is in abeyance.
I tried vaping. It turned my lungs to concrete, made my intercostal muscles ache and gave me shortness of breath. I’m a Pharm.D. and shoulda known better. Use the patch to quit...works everytime if you quit in your mind 1st.
That’s pure b.s. The nicotine molecule does not displace THC molecule. That’s like, “ dont eat, man. it’ll ruin yer buzz”..also b.s.
I didn’t come up with the study that cigarette smoke can kill a lot buzz, I’m only reporting that one existed once. And it was from out of California.
True. But tobacco is not the only source of nicotine. It can be extracted from tomatoes and potatoes as well. A little factoid that gives some state legislators fits in trying to tax it!
Mostly companies (and people) don't want an unknown and possibly threatening future, they will do anything to not change.
Example: Vacuum tube manufacturers were not interested in the transistor.
Example: Kodak was not interested in digital photography.
Example: Western Union was not interested in the telephone.
Socialism. It's very bad for the environment, too...
Based on my rather limited survey, no probably about it.
Some people prefer boomboxes to earbuds...
Meant no offense! Sorry.
There was this stupid myth about some possible vape additive that could give popcorn lung and somehow that's popping up yet again. Not only is that flavoring not used in vapes in the US, but honestly, you need constant exposure of the powder in 10’s of grams - most vape tanks are less than 3 ml’s, and those larger tanks typically take days to exhaust...
But that myth was dispelled 5 or so years ago.
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