Posted on 09/16/2019 4:08:00 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Iran launched nearly a dozen cruise missiles and over 20 drones from its territory in the attack on a key Saudi oil facility Saturday, a senior Trump administration official told ABC News Sunday.
It is an extraordinary charge to make, that Iran used missiles and drones to attack its neighbor and rival Saudi Arabia, as the region teeters on the edge of high tensions.
President Donald Trump warned the U.S. was "locked and loaded" to respond to the attack on Sunday, waiting for verification of who was responsible and for word from Saudi Arabia on how to proceed.
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So, who would supply/sell Iran with cruise missiles?
You are implying that because the 911 terrorists were Saudi, that the Saudi govt sanctioned the attack. I have not seen evidence to this, only conspiracy theory. The Saudi’s supported our efforts in 91 against Saddam and again in 2003. While I am not saying I trust the Saudis in all things, your comment is like saying the actions of the KKK or Antifa are the responsibility of the US govt.
We should be knowing what Iran’s got and where they put it. If we don’t we got some serious problems
Of course they did.
Saddam was their main religious and ideological enemy.
We did them a huge favor.
Why wouldn't they support that?
Who benefits, good question.
There is a vast war supply chain that has existed for decades and decades.
War is immensely profitable and power enabling.
He who controls the arms trade CAN control the game.
He who controls the propaganda and illicit if not legitimate arms trading CAN control the game.
Once someone is in the game, they stay in the game. The game has continued unabated for generations until President Trump and his military intel backers have brought the specter of its metamorphosis if not the extinction of its present form.
President Donald Trump has been busy shutting it down. By ‘it’ is meant the mercenary intel networks and the thousands of bank accounts and funded fronts worldwide. Many of the mercenaries are also on the inside.
Marc Rich (deceased)
Robert Maxwell (deceased)
Jeffrey Epstein (hoax death)
Rothschild network
SA (prior to Las Vegas)
Soros
Many, many more.
The three pillars of this racket are/were Rothschild-SA-Soros.
Rothschild is EU-BIS-ECB-Juncker, good portion of IMF. Rothschild network is the financial muscle. SA is/was the main arms facilitator. Soros is the social instigator.
Many believe in error Soros is the finance power, he is not. He’s a conduit. He steers funds to organizers of instigators, groups that create local conflict and chaos.
Putin is not a player. He’s actually wise to stay out of it. He’s a lot smarter than he’s given credit for.
PRC is a group of gangsters always looking for an advantage but not a central player to the European and Middle East theater.
Rothschild network is a consortium of central banks both large and small (32 in total), with a central bank in practically every region and country.
SA is a vast wealth holder both in terms of stocks, bonds, gold, influence. But their real power is not so much in terms of finance but in terns of having a large worldwide supply of compliant Islamic agents that facilitate trade especially trade in contraband. Their lack of power in finance is not that they lack finance, they have it in spades. What they lack is management of finance which the Rothschild networks provide. SA provides the agents, not all, not even a lot who are Arab.
In business terms, Rothschild is Accounting, SA is Human Resources, Soros is Marketing.
The world is small at the top. They all know each other.
The cash shipments of the Iran deal are known by a covert US military counter-intel group that is not allowed to be mentioned on FR not because it is untrue but because it stems from a platform that has some crazy over-the-top boards on it. The military group board that discloses cryptic code as questions and hints is presently a target of the Mockingbird Media. FR allows a controlled outlet to address some its disclosures but it is not the best source to learn from and is often a distraction as it expands on disinformation and signal jamming meaning ‘throws’.
The shipments of cash for the Iranian deal were flown into five airports using five different airplanes and the cash was in different currencies. That’s one of the intel drops.
It is hinted by the same source that a large part of the cash was used to pay off certain persons of influence to gain their acquiescence to the deal which was to put Iran on a path to becoming a nuclear power with a ten year delay sweetener. Since this sales line was sold, it has come out that the Iranian regime had no intention of delaying their nuclear weapons development. Trump is the real delayer.
The cryptic code and hints as questions are designed to appear as speculation rather than as outside intel drops that should in the ordinary course go through official channels. This way, and given the anonymity and secrecy of the group, no member of the group can be tied back to official sources and charged with violations of national security.
Unfortunately, that leaves it as a mystery which makes it easy for hecklers and jokers to throw stones at. Belief in it comes after sustained study observing hundreds of confirmations. I could steer a person to the anonymous source but it takes weeks at best to absorb. And such people that undertake it are maligned to no end.
To give an example although unrelated that provides a similar setting of difficulty, the DOD’s Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center in Monterey, CA can take a capable person of good intelligence capacity and immerse them in language learning for 6 months and have them come out speaking fluently without accent.
In order to understand a good portion of the intel drops alluded to above, an immersion of at least a month is necessary. By immersion is meant sleep, eat, study, and nothing else. Few can sustain that.
And to what end?
What benefit to the United States from eliminating Saddam could even POSSIBLY have been worth the cost?
You don’t address the rest of my post.
The facilities are out in the middle of nowhere. There is a lot of nowhere between the facilities and Iran on a flight path traversing Iraq.
You don’t address the rest of my post. I wont go down your side road when you wont address the conspiracy you first proposed. Islam has lots of inconsistencies but you proposed a specific conspiracy, so where is evidence?
Iran is acting as if they are immune I suspect because they have their warheads completed. After all I heard they would have their nukes in 5 years 10 years ago.
“Where would they get the cruise missiles?”
Even a cursory web search shows Iran has several models of cruise missiles (Meshkat, Soumar, etc.) which can attack KSA. Iran has thousands of cruise missiles.
They showed the photo’s and these tanks were hit pretty hard and very accurately. The Iranian’s now have some kind of weapon that meets our standard of putting a bomb thru a window and you get to pick which window from 1991.
Dear ex-pResident Ovomit:
Thanks for sending 2 billion dollars of OUR money to Iran. They have used it to build weapons and attack oil facilities in Saudi Arabia and are now wanting a war with the U.S.
“Iran is acting as if they are immune I suspect because they have their warheads completed.”
I strongly suspect that IF what you say is true and IF they are dumb enough to use them it would be the end of them as any threat in the region for the foreseeable future.
But, there needs to be proof Iran was involved. I'll leave it to the President to decide whether that kind of evidence exists.
The United States — like it or not — is the guarantor of world trade. It will react if international law is contravened in the Gulf, the Strait of Tiran, Red Sea, Suez Canal, South China Sea, Straits of Malacca, etc. It is also now the guarantor of the world-wide energy market. Now the only way out of this situation is a return to true isolationism, and economic autarky. And that would be a disaster for both the United States and the world.
For reasons of its own, Iran has been egging-on the United States and Europe. It may have something to do with the Shiite’s own end-of-the-world view, or more precisely it may be that a crisis is needed because the Iranian suq is ready to explode, just as it did when the Shah was overthrown.
In any cas, next stop: UN Security Council.
You need to know what they did and what we are doing is not War.
Do some basic research on Iran, Israel (current elections), Lebanon, the Palis, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen... and just maybe in the past week alone you could figure it out. Become enlightened rather than just anti ME War.
The parts, the guidance subsystems, the warheads, all of these things had to come from somewhere. Iran does not manufacture, they assemble.
There’s an arms trade network that supplies these things. Rogue Russians and PRC Chinese along with Pakis are likely to be involved.
Iran has been on the non-proliferation list for a long time and that means their missiles are procured through the black market of arms dealers. There is a global agreement to deny the Islamic Republic of Iran these weapons.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2018/02/22/iranian-cruise-missiles-also-a-proliferation-threat
The question remains, where are these missiles coming from?
What groups are violating the sanctions?
Rogue elements of our own CIA are involved. And some of these rogue players have been on the inside.
Illicit weapons parts on black markets are not easy to carry. It’s not like opium products which are easy to carry. There is no garage where a few bad actors are making critical missile subassemblies. The parts are coming from manufacturers that are known and registered. They are few and far between, easy to monitor.
In Bill Clinton’s second term, PRC had no missile guidance systems worth making. After Loral staged a freak missile failure, PRC got what they needed by confiscating the downed missile.
PRC may be involved unofficially. It’s a good bet they watch their missile confab facilities carefully. PRC workers are known to steal anything they can. PRC hates Trump because he calls them out. But even they would be careful not to arm Iran unless there was an oil deal in it for them. That could very well be or have been under Obama but not with Trump.
In whatever way Iran got these missiles, there’s a train of characters behind the black market that provides the critical parts.
Our CIA has human assets among the black marketeers but some of those assets are double agents; they can be bought for a price.
Hillary Clinton and her network have billions stashed away offshore. It’s no leap to suspect those funds are involved.
OK, debatable. We disagree but it really doesn’t matter anyway. We don’t get a say in the matter.
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