Posted on 08/30/2019 4:03:49 PM PDT by xxqqzz
The families of two teenagers who were shot and killed after allegedly trespassing outside a home in Dayton, Ohio, are demanding accountability. The homeowner admitted he shot Javier Harrison and Devin Henderson on Wednesday. Police said the teens may have been involved in drug activity on the property.
Police are trying to determine whether this is a case of justifiable self-defense. Jimmy Harrison, Javier Harrison's father, said the unidentified homeowner knew his son, but police haven't confirmed that.
"I want answers," Jimmy Harrison said.
Harrison said he feels like the shooting was premeditated.
"It wasn't in your house, it was in the garage," Harrison said. "You seeing some perps out there at your garage, you know, so my first instinct is call the police. I feel like he took the law into his own hands."
The homeowner told police he saw a light in his garage Wednesday and found three people sitting inside a car. Police said he fired his revolver multiple times, killing the two teens. The third person ran away but returned when police arrived.
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I didn't need to look.
What is this “logic” that says, “oh, it wasn’t in his house - it was ‘just’ in his garage, so therefore the owner should not have defended himself”? Property is property - get off my lawn!
Stay the hell out of other people’s garages.
Agreed.
There was a similar thread last year, with most freepers saying to be careful before shooting, me among them. One freeper criticized me, saying it's better to shoot into the dark garage and stay alive. I said no, you must know your target before shooting. Other incidents have happened where homeowners shot and killed their own teenage children who came in through the garage at night.
If you feel threatened by someone your garage, be armed and ready to repel the threat but best to get some light on the target and be sure it isn't a harmless threat. In this case, homeowner had light in the garage and fired away. He's in trouble, if there was no weapon on the intruders.
I agree
I agree.
If you’re going on someone’s property ... and the owner is unaware or has not invited you, “expect anything”.
That depends on the details. Three to one odds are an immediate danger in my book if any of the three makes a threatening move.
Something similar happened to a lady at church. Her grown daughter was walking in her bedroom with the lights off. The son-in-law, her husband woke up in the dark, assumed it was an intruder, grabbed his gun and shot, killing his wife instantly.
There’s this wrinkle called the law.
If the home owner didn’t say he feared for his life, he is going to prison for a long time.
Whether or not you think he, or you, “should” be able to smoke anyone on your property is meaningless.
From the article:
“The homeowner told police he saw a light in his garage Wednesday and found three people sitting inside a car.”
If he shot them sitting in a car, he is done.
Just shout out, “It’s Comin’ Right For Us!” and you’ll be fine.
You need a good lawyer though...
“Just this year, Ohio joined many other states in requiring prosecutors to prove a homeowner did not act in self-defense”.
Your honor, the young men started toward me simultaneously and I was overwhelmed with fear...because I knew they were crazy or on some kind of dope making them crazy. Otherwise, they would not be in my garage.
Or, if they were in a car...
One of them turned to me rapidly, and I knew they were crazy (for the above reasons) and I thought I saw a gun in his hand.
Mr. Prosecutor prove that’s not what happened.
Facts are not all out yet. But shooting people that aren’t threatening your life is a no no.
I’m leaning towards bad shoot on this one
It's a good thing my gun is on my side of the bed. I often walk in and out of the bedroom in the middle of the night with the lights off; I know my way around the house in the dark. The worst I'm facing is my wife clobbering me with the baseball bat she keeps on her side of the bed.
“What is this logic that says, oh, it wasnt in his house - it was just in his garage, so therefore the owner should not have defended himself?
Unfortunately, that is the legal STANDARD for the police. They can go into a detached garage, your backyard or any of your property to check out anything they find suspicious. Without a warrant. Just not into your domicile.
“I want answers,” Jimmy Harrison said.
Here’s the answer, Mr. Harrison.
Your son is dead.
That’s the bottom line.
Whatever happens after that is of far, far less importance, is it not?
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