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A doctor and medical ethicist argues life after 75 is not worth living (Ezekiel Emanuel keeps at it)
MIT Technology Review ^ | August 21, 2019 | Stephen S. Hall

Posted on 08/30/2019 4:17:31 AM PDT by DoodleBob

In October 2014, Ezekiel Emanuel published an essay in the Atlantic called “Why I Hope to Die at 75.” Because Emanuel is a medical doctor and chair of the University of Pennsylvania’s department of medical ethics and health policy, as well as a chief architect of Obamacare, the article stirred enormous controversy.

Emanuel vowed to refuse not only heroic medical interventions once he turned 75, but also antibiotics and vaccinations. His argument: older Americans live too long in a diminished state, raising the question of, as he put it, “whether our consumption is worth our contribution.”

Emanuel was born into a combative clan. One brother, Rahm, recently completed two terms as the controversial mayor of Chicago; another brother, Ari, is a high-profile Hollywood agent. But even given his DNA, Emanuel’s death wish was a provocative argument from a medical ethicist and health-care expert.

Emanuel, now 62, talked with me about the social implications of longevity research and why he isn’t a fan of extending life spans. I was particularly curious to get his reaction to several promising new anti-aging drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at technologyreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathcamps4goyim; deathpanels; life; longevity; obamacare; oldage
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To: grey_whiskers

Jimmy Page is 76 w/ his 28 year old poet Girlfriend Scarlet Sabet


121 posted on 08/30/2019 8:37:15 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: DoodleBob

You know he’ll change his tune when HE hits 75.


122 posted on 08/30/2019 8:40:25 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DoodleBob

I’ll be 76 in a few weeks. Should I crawl into a hole and die?


123 posted on 08/30/2019 8:53:09 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: DoodleBob

Your right about the mindset, but it could be that people think it’s more about physical age itself, at least I thought so. “Never trust anybody over 30” was also a mantra at the time.

I gave up on The Who after Quadraphenia. Good vocal scream by Roger on Love Reign Down On Me, but over all too depressing.

I don’t know what you mean when you say, “people like him should of course be spared”. Are you thinking he is garnering support for an end of life program? I didn’t get that impression.


124 posted on 08/30/2019 9:13:16 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: Obadiah
They want you to live only so you can be a slave to the state.

When you can't serve their interests any more, they want you to die quickly, so the next generation can then be enslaved.
And they call themselves compassionate?

125 posted on 08/30/2019 9:19:29 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: BEJ
Without being too tinfoil hatlike, rarely does anyone trot out a radical plan in full bloom. The good Dr's piece was all about getting people to see, intellectually, how rationing care to the young and elderly was "reasonable." Once you've got them hooked, you incrementally move to your true position. Look at abortion: we've gone from "safe, legal and rare" to infanticide.

Now, do I think Zeke always wanted death panels etc (but not for him and his ilk)? He doesn't strike me as smart enough to fully think through such an evil genius plan. But is he a useful idiot....?

Townshend said The Who was a "spent force" creatively after Quadrophenia, and in general he's right. The Quadrophenia Tour of 2012-13 was perhaps their best post-Moon tour; The Rock live was a borderline religious experience. They remained - and remain - an outstanding live act.

126 posted on 08/30/2019 9:44:48 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob
Townshend said The Who was a "spent force" creatively after Quadrophenia, and in general he's right.

True, but Townshend still had a backlog of songs from the "Lifehouse" project, "Slip Kid" (one of my all-time favorite Who songs, is one of them)

127 posted on 08/30/2019 9:46:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
Oh, I'm not saying everything after 1973 was crap. I went through a Who By Numbers phase where I thought However Much I Booze was a masterpiece. I think Sister Disco and The Quiet One (and of course Who Are You) are great studio and live pieces.

That said, you can line up Who By Numbers with Presence, and Who Are You with In Through The Out Door as later albums by the top bands of the 1970s that were ok, and at times stellar (Achilles Last Stand is Zeppelin's best IMHO) but not quite as good as a comprehensive work as prior efforts.

And they should all be denied healthcare, those aging wankers.

128 posted on 08/30/2019 9:55:18 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob
Oh, I'm not saying everything after 1973 was crap. I went through a Who By Numbers phase where I thought However Much I Booze was a masterpiece. I think Sister Disco and The Quiet One (and of course Who Are You) are great studio and live pieces.

"Music Must Change" is another great song.

129 posted on 08/30/2019 9:56:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleBob
God bless them. I bet they ate food from Sheetz...

LOL! Nah. They were DC gals. We didn't have either until after they were too old to drive from the retirement home. Finally got a Wawa near Dupont Circle, but no Sheetz in the entire Swamp.

130 posted on 08/30/2019 10:00:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: dfwgator

Great song. The original “party line” on why Keith doesn’t play drums in that tune was that he couldn’t play 6/8 time. The fact is there are plenty of “odd meter” songs in The Who’s catalog (Love Reign O’er Me is in 6 or 12); Keith was just a mess during The Who Are You recording sessions. But there was a 2-week stretch where he could function and that’s when they locked down the drums. Even then he’d lost his brilliance and a little of his regular mojo - in Who Are You on the last verse he sticks completely to the ride cymbal vs high-hat, and you can hear a little confusion on his part early in the verse as to whether he wants to stick with ride or HH. Zeke would approve.


131 posted on 08/30/2019 10:17:20 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: GoldenPup
I’m well over that age, and let be the first to say this guy is full of shit!

I have to agree with you. I just went passed no.81 and I feel great. However, things are starting to slow down a bit and that frustrates me a little.

132 posted on 08/30/2019 10:27:01 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: DoodleBob

I think you are right, but I only read a snippet of the article so I didn’t come away with the death panels and all that. Psychologically, I think you nailed the thinking behind how they move an agenda forward. Inch by inch... and that is what they think progress is all about.

My favorites of The Who are the songs “Won’t get Fooled Again” and the fist track from “Live at Leeds.” Live at Leeds is a great album — one of the best live albums for starkness and energy.


133 posted on 08/30/2019 10:29:36 AM PDT by BEJ
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To: DoodleBob

Looks like the nation has acquired another overlord. Human life has now been reduced to a variable commodity on an economics graph.


134 posted on 08/30/2019 10:53:22 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Chainmail

I’m glad for your happiness and healthy attitude.

I see you are a Vietnam Vet living in VA. After Vietnam they sent me to Arlington, where I met my wife of 48 years.

Best of luck and health to you.


135 posted on 08/30/2019 12:48:58 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: redfreedom

Health and happiness to you too...

Welcome home.


136 posted on 08/30/2019 1:09:30 PM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Grampa Dave

At least they were both Senators.

137 posted on 08/30/2019 1:15:06 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: dearolddad
Live long and prosper. 👍
138 posted on 08/30/2019 1:52:00 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: To Hell With Poverty

https://www.mymetabolicmeals.com/longevity-secrets-taking-care-of-your-mitochondria/

Essentially what everyone already knows.

Eat protein, healthy fats, and veggies.
Exercise, have sex, sleep, play, and neutralize stress via meditation and yoga.


139 posted on 08/30/2019 2:06:48 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: bantam

100%


140 posted on 08/30/2019 3:16:06 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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