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Trump officials say children of some service members overseas will not get automatic citizenship
The Hill ^ | 08/28/19 | Rafael Bernal and Morgan Chalfant

Posted on 08/28/2019 3:25:25 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

The Trump administration said Wednesday that the children of some U.S. military members and government employees working overseas will no longer automatically be considered United States citizens.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) issued a policy rescinding previous guidance stating that children of U.S. service members and other government officials abroad are considered “residing in the United States” and automatically given citizenship under a section of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

USCIS issued a clarification to the rule later Wednesday, explaining that the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child's birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements.

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The policy change triggered backlash from immediate Democratic lawmakers and presidential candidates.

“This move by the administration will make it harder for Americans serving our country overseas to have families,” wrote Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.). “This also appears to be an initial step towards ending birthright citizenship, something which the president has threatened to do—and which would be unconstitutional."

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1 posted on 08/28/2019 3:25:25 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Who are the officials?

Val Jar and Comey?


2 posted on 08/28/2019 3:31:28 PM PDT by Eddie01
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That’s a very strange policy, to the point that I’m wondering if the USCIS is trying to sabotage Trump. All over the world, children of a given nation’s citizens are generally considered citizens. Whereas children born in a given country are only citizens if at least one parent is a citizen of that country.


3 posted on 08/28/2019 3:31:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“USCIS issued a clarification to the rule later Wednesday, explaining that the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child’s birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements. “


4 posted on 08/28/2019 3:34:28 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: yesthatjallen

This may makenit harder for servicemen to get laid overseas.


5 posted on 08/28/2019 3:34:49 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: yesthatjallen

More complicated than the simplistic headline


6 posted on 08/28/2019 3:34:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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>>>explaining that the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child’s birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements<<<

In other words, the Headline does not match the facts included in the story. Color me shocked...


7 posted on 08/28/2019 3:34:54 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Zhang Fei

From the above piece “...only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child’s birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements. ...”


8 posted on 08/28/2019 3:35:15 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Zhang Fei

May be a method chosen to bring into public consciousness and debate the natural born concept.


9 posted on 08/28/2019 3:36:32 PM PDT by odawg
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the children of some U.S. military members and government employees working overseas will no longer automatically be considered United States citizens.

Ridiculous! The military members, at least, were ORDERED overseas by their government. It would never hold up in court.

10 posted on 08/28/2019 3:37:29 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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I, for one, trust President Trump and his hard-line on immigration. Children born in the US should get special status, regardless of the circumstances. President Trump is more wise than any of us, and his wisdom should not be questioned. So what if a few people’s lives are temporarily disrupted, we all must make sacrifices to end the terror years of open boarders have inflicted.


11 posted on 08/28/2019 3:37:40 PM PDT by PatriotFever (The world is watching. Trump will prevail.)
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USCIS issued a clarification to the rule later Wednesday, explaining that the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child's birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements.

IOW, no more free rides to the big PX.

12 posted on 08/28/2019 3:38:41 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: PeteB570

As usual the Rats will exploit this because they know the truth is complicated and will not be explained.


13 posted on 08/28/2019 3:38:45 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: yesthatjallen

If both parents are non-citizens of the US, and a child is born on foreign soil, the patents may apply for the child’s citizenship.


14 posted on 08/28/2019 3:40:17 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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This is consistent with court precedent. Previous policy was afoul of the law.

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/14/14-60297-CV0.pdf

Thomas v. Lynch - 5th Circuit - August 7, 2015 - 14-60297


15 posted on 08/28/2019 3:41:21 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: libertylover
Read the article.

I know it is against tradition but the headline in this case is quite deceitful.

16 posted on 08/28/2019 3:41:39 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Zhang Fei

As far as I can tell the only folks affected are children of foreign based green card holder USG employees who have not resided long in the US. The population of those people has to be near zero. For all practical purposes this a non story. Just another Fake News attack on POTUS, basically.


17 posted on 08/28/2019 3:44:01 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: libertylover

Ridiculous! The military members, at least, were ORDERED overseas by their government. It would never hold up in court.


It’s not true. Just more fake news. Deployed on official orders counts as US residency.


18 posted on 08/28/2019 3:46:21 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Eddie01
Calmly analyze the rules.

".... the new rule would only affect three categories of people: Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members; children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child's birth; and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements."


Children of non-U.S. citizens adopted by U.S. citizen government employees or service members;

Y'can't pick an orphaned kid up off the streets of Baghdag and call him an American citizen.


children of non-U.S. citizen government employees or service members who were naturalized after the child's birth;

YOUR naturalization does not automatically make your kid a citizen


and children of U.S. citizens who do not meet residency requirements.

Self explanatory

19 posted on 08/28/2019 3:46:58 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true..)
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-- Deployed on official orders counts as US residency. --

Not true. The basis for citizenship in those cases is not "born in the US."

20 posted on 08/28/2019 3:47:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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