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Gregory L. Schmidt: Yes, it is about the person holding the gun (barf alert)
madison.com ^ | Gregory L. Schmidt

Posted on 08/28/2019 6:31:05 AM PDT by rellimpank

For once, I agree with President Donald Trump.

At a rally on Aug. 15, he addressed the epidemic of gun violence in the United States by saying, “It’s not the gun that pulls the trigger, it’s the person holding the gun.” He then went off onto the now predictable tangent of proposing the development of new psychiatric hospitals to keep people with mental illness from being “that person.”

I am a retired psychiatrist who has evaluated and treated people with every known psychiatric disorder and who has interviewed and prepared comprehensive assessments of convicted felons. I can tell you that Mr. Trump is right about our need to focus on the person who pulls the trigger, but completely wrong about people with broadly defined mental illness being responsible for gun violence in America.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; rkba
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1 posted on 08/28/2019 6:31:05 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
---ftom the article---

Most importantly, we know that handguns and military-style assault weapons are designed and manufactured for a single purpose: to kill human beings. Given that fact, we must accept that the ownership of such a weapon defines the owner’s intent. Homicide is most commonly committed by men who are driven by anger toward or hatred of their victims. Possession of an implement specifically designed for the efficient murder of human beings greatly increases the probability that the target of that anger and hatred will die. This all leads to a conclusion that our leaders have been afraid to accept. The people who should not be allowed to possess handguns and assault weapons are the people who want them."

2 posted on 08/28/2019 6:37:19 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank
Most importantly, we know that handguns and military-style assault weapons are designed and manufactured for a single purpose: to kill human beings. Given that fact, we must accept that the ownership of such a weapon defines the owner’s intent.

Typical gun-grabber load of horsecrap. I have guns not because I want to kill someone, but because I want to be able to fend off someone who wants to harm me. I have had one defensive firearm use in my life, and I didn't have to even point Mr. Mossberg at the home invader - he saw I was armed and ran out the door. Liberals refuse to accept armed self-defense as a right, so they write crap like this.

3 posted on 08/28/2019 6:37:50 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Hey GREG!!!

Fix the HIPPA laws so the mentally ill are flagged on background checks!!!!!

Fix the laws prohibiting the tracking of the crimes of minors!!!!

Those are the ONLY "loopholes" needing fixed.

4 posted on 08/28/2019 6:38:00 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: rellimpank

It’s the training.
I have been very strict with my guns.
They are not allowed outside alone, and are not permitted to use words of hate. Like “liberal, progressive, Clinton, and Dorkbama.”


5 posted on 08/28/2019 6:38:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote (eh)
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To: rellimpank

This all leads to a conclusion that our leaders have been afraid to accept. The people who should not be allowed to possess handguns and assault weapons are the people who want them.


And the money quote. I remind all the real purpose of the 2nd. To protect ourselves from government and idiots like this author.....................................


6 posted on 08/28/2019 6:39:12 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Bingo. Tienanmen Square. Enough said.


7 posted on 08/28/2019 6:40:58 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: rellimpank

I wonder how many homeless people and serial killers and crazed shooters this filthy shrink created with his drugs, ECT and brain operations? Shrinks are murderers.


8 posted on 08/28/2019 6:42:06 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: rellimpank

Let’s apply his logic to the 1st Amendment and media ownership.

“This all leads to a conclusion that our leaders have been afraid to accept. The people who should not be allowed to possess handguns and assault weapons are the people who want them.”


9 posted on 08/28/2019 6:43:01 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: rellimpank

When will people realize that the idiotic practice of “mainstreaming” the mentally ill is not a good idea and has proven to have a very deleterious impact on society?


10 posted on 08/28/2019 6:44:10 AM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: rellimpank

He’s a psychiatrist. Psychiatrists now think there is not a mental issue involved when a man presents himself as a woman. Psychiatrists also believe energetic young boys should be given hard prescription drugs to keep them still and quiet in class so the teacher won’t have to put out any effort. All psychiatrists do these days is prescribe mind altering drugs and write inane articles.


11 posted on 08/28/2019 6:46:51 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: dirtboy
"Most importantly, we know that handguns and military-style assault weapons are designed and manufactured for a single purpose: to kill human beings. Given that fact, we must accept that the ownership of such a weapon defines the owner’s intent."

The logic above is convoluted. For example:

The penis is present for one thing: impregnating a female. Given that fact, we must accept that possession of a penis defines the owner's intent.

Similar "logic", but completely misleading unless one believes all men are only thinking of impregnating every female.

12 posted on 08/28/2019 6:46:51 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Da Coyote

My handgun has never gotten up, loaded a magazine, inserted said magazine into itself and shot the FedEx person at the door.


13 posted on 08/28/2019 6:50:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rellimpank

If everyone who owns an AR15 was bent on killing somebody, there would not be anyone left.


14 posted on 08/28/2019 6:50:49 AM PDT by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: PeterPrinciple

This guy is the poster child for therapists being more nuts than those they “treat”.

Haven’t met one yet who wasn’t bat shit crazy.


15 posted on 08/28/2019 6:51:09 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: rellimpank

Here is the guts of this shrink’s article:

“Most importantly, we know that handguns and military-style assault weapons are designed and manufactured for a single purpose: to kill human beings. Given that fact, we must accept that the ownership of such a weapon defines the owner’s intent.

Homicide is most commonly committed by men who are driven by anger toward or hatred of their victims. Possession of an implement specifically designed for the efficient murder of human beings greatly increases the probability that the target of that anger and hatred will die.

This all leads to a conclusion that our leaders have been afraid to accept. The people who should not be allowed to possess handguns and assault weapons are the people who want them.”

This guy twists facts stats and logic into a tautology of false conclusion that would strip any law-abiding person of the fundamental right to choose how and with what to defend themselves.

Perhaps he ought to look at the actual stratification of those responsible for the homicides he wishes to reduce and tell us exactly how 99.99% of them are committed by career thugs and criminals and are swept along out of sight and soundbite of the media. Would he say that our rate of handgun homicide ought to be reduced by removing those who committed them from society?


16 posted on 08/28/2019 6:51:29 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: rellimpank
Additionally from the article:

"This all leads to a conclusion that our leaders have been afraid to accept. The people who should not be allowed to possess handguns and assault weapons are the people who want them."

So, time to disarm the police and military? I'm sure the doctor would disagree. And probably have a pat explanation as to why.

17 posted on 08/28/2019 6:51:42 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: bk1000
"He’s a psychiatrist." Darn, missed that. Always remember what a true genius had to say about that - er - profession: Richard Feynman had a hierarchy of the sciences: Physics is applied mathematics.
Chemistry is applied physics.
Biology is applied chemistry.
Psychology is a bunch of witch doctors
18 posted on 08/28/2019 6:52:18 AM PDT by Da Coyote (eh)
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To: Tench_Coxe
The penis is present for one thing: impregnating a female. Given that fact, we must accept that possession of a penis defines the owner's intent.

I use mine to pee through also. In fact, it is about its only use when one has a bad prostrate.

19 posted on 08/28/2019 6:52:26 AM PDT by sport
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To: rellimpank

Crack-head


20 posted on 08/28/2019 6:53:31 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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