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Joel McNally: What’s the difference between Tommy Guns and assault weapons? ----(barf alert)
Cap Times ^ | 25 aug 2019 | Joel McNally

Posted on 08/25/2019 4:27:59 AM PDT by rellimpank

Here’s an important question for our times: What’s the difference between a Tommy Gun, the submachine gun wielded by gangsters like John Dillinger and Baby Face Nelson roaming Wisconsin in the 1930s, and a military-style assault weapon, today’s weapon of choice routinely used to commit mass murders all over America?

The answer, of course, is there’s virtually no difference, except for this: President Franklin Roosevelt and the U.S. Congress succeeded in removing Thompson submachine guns, firing 600 rounds of bullets in a minute, from city streets with the National Firearms Act of 1934, the first serious federal gun safety legislation ever passed to protect American lives.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 1934; banglist; guns; rkba
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---as laughable an article as the Crap Times has printed in a long time--
1 posted on 08/25/2019 4:27:59 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Assault weapons was an invention by Diane Feinstein.


2 posted on 08/25/2019 4:34:32 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: rellimpank

I wonder if John Lott has ever looked into how many lives were saved by getting Tommy guns off the streets?


3 posted on 08/25/2019 4:36:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: rellimpank

These people know nothing.


4 posted on 08/25/2019 4:38:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: rellimpank

I think “Tommy Guns” were usually outfitted with 20 to 30 round magazines. Perhaps those 30 rounds could be fired in 5 seconds? (Or whatever). But 600 rounds in 60 seconds?

Sort of like saying a car that can reach 60 mph in 5 seconds will get to 720 mph in a minute.


5 posted on 08/25/2019 4:39:26 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: rellimpank

You can still buy a Tommy Gun... that operates just like an AR-15, one trigger pull = one round down range.


6 posted on 08/25/2019 4:39:31 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: rellimpank

While the title of the video is about suppressors, he goes into some detail on Tommy Guns and some other things about NFA weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VWcGwPJQfc


7 posted on 08/25/2019 4:42:07 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: wastoute

I was thinking the same thing. How many folks have ever been killed by “Tommy guns” in the USA? I would guess that it was under 200. Probably under 100. (Not including combat deaths.)

Heh - and probably most of the dead were criminals in the first place!?


8 posted on 08/25/2019 4:44:22 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: Feckless
You can still buy a Tommy Gun... that operates just like an AR-15, one trigger pull = one round down range

And you can buy a real one, as well, if you've got $20 000 or so lying around that you don't need. Several of my buddies have one - legally, of course.

9 posted on 08/25/2019 4:45:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: 21twelve

600 rpms for a Thompson is actually pretty slow. Many models could do more like 900-1000, with a couple even running 1200 cycles a minute. As far as I’m aware, the only Thompsons that could fire as slowly as 600 rounds a minute were built on navy spec, which included a rate reducer to reduce it’s rate of fire.

If you’ve ever handled machineguns, 600 rpm is quite slow.


10 posted on 08/25/2019 4:49:08 AM PDT by This_Dude
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To: rellimpank; All

I sometimes wonder if these “reporters”/”journalists” are TERMINALLY ignorant, STUPID, completely DISHONEST or “Answer E”, ALL of the above?

IF asked (I’m a retired US Army Rangermaster, among other training.), I would sit down & write a reasonably literate argument that explains WHY the so-called “gun control agenda” is simply factually WRONG & WRONG-HEADED, as well.

Yours, TMN78247
USAMPR, Retired


11 posted on 08/25/2019 4:52:04 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: rellimpank
Caliber?
12 posted on 08/25/2019 4:52:09 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: rellimpank

Fully automatics were completely legal in Canada until January 1, 1978. They had required registration since 1969 as a restricted firearm and legal owners as of 1978 were grandfathered as part of the law. IIRC, there were basically no incidents (certainly up until now as well) involving the criminal misuse of a fully automatic rifle by it’s legal owner during that time leading up to the legal restrictions and prohibition put on this class of firearm.


13 posted on 08/25/2019 5:02:23 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: rellimpank

“...military-style assault weapon...”

A most deceitful term, used purposely to mislead ignorant people. As with most progressives’ words — lies.

Truthful is “semi-automatic rifle”. Works just like grandpa’s bunting rifle, no different. Some just look different.

By their logic, a doctor in camo wear would be a “military-style assault butcher”.


14 posted on 08/25/2019 5:06:19 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: TMN78247
---IMHO, "completely DISHONEST" . as you put it probably covers mos of it-

--if , for example this buffoon hasn't yet grasped the difference between semi and full automatic yet. he must be living under a rock----

15 posted on 08/25/2019 5:07:14 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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To: 21twelve

IMHO if one were to objectively examine every “gun control” law they are probably all abject failures. Which betrays the intent of the Rats. It ain’t about saving lives it is about civilian disarmament and they don’t give a damn how many people die attempting that.


16 posted on 08/25/2019 5:10:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: rellimpank
Caliber, weight, size, normal magazine capacity, automatic vs. semi-automatic, accuracy … I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Oh yeah, one is an antique and the other is modern, legally available in all States (with some restrictions in a few Snowflake regions), and actually quite suitable for use in hunting. Similarities? They both are scary!
17 posted on 08/25/2019 5:17:01 AM PDT by katana
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To: rellimpank
The answer, of course, is there’s virtually no difference, except for this: President Franklin Roosevelt and the U.S. Congress succeeded in removing Thompson submachine guns, firing 600 rounds of bullets in a minute, from city streets with the National Firearms Act of 1934, the first serious federal gun safety legislation ever passed to protect American lives.

The biggest lie.

The National Firearms Act of 1934 had no effect on the likes of John Dillinger and Baby Face Nelson obtaining their firearms of choice because they stole them from National Guard armories. They did not buy their Tommy Guns legally.

Tommy Guns were expensive long before the NFA. Criminals don’t go to gun stores to buy guns.

Criminals then and now are not hampered by laws when obtaining weapons.

18 posted on 08/25/2019 5:19:31 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: rellimpank

Let’s do a little math for the libs....

600 rounds per minute = 10 round per second or 1 round per 1/10th sec not counting magazine changes.

600 rounds in 20 round magazines = 30 magazine changes
600 rounds in 30 round magazines = 20 magazine changes
600 rounds in 100 round drum magazines = 6 drum changes

Rate of 20 round magazine change is every 2 seconds
Rate of 30 round magazine change is every 3 seconds
Rate of 100 round drum change is every 10 seconds

Not even Jerry Michalak could pull of 600 rounds of sustained fire in 60 seconds.

It would be hard to believe that even firing and M16/M4 at full auto you could get an actual 600 rounds per minute.

Only in the minds of liberals is this crap even possible.


19 posted on 08/25/2019 5:22:44 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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We better come up with a better argument to keep semi-automatic weapons than “they’re not full auto.”

Especially since it could be argued that aimed semi-auto fire is more “lethal” than full-auto fire.

20 posted on 08/25/2019 5:30:04 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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