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Chinese missiles likely to cripple Asia-based US forces in event of conflict: report
South China Morning Post ^ | August 18, 2019 | Bhavan Jaipragas

Posted on 08/19/2019 1:19:41 AM PDT by kaehurowing

If an armed conflict broke out between Beijing and Washington, China’s hi-tech ballistic missiles would likely cripple the United States’ military bases and naval fleet across the Western Pacific region within hours, a new report by Australia-based researchers has said.

With China making rapid technological advancements and sharpening its hard power, the report urged the US and regional allies such as Australia and Japan to overhaul military investment and deployment plans, or face the prospect of American “military primacy” being undermined by the Asian power.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; expansionism; redchina; trumpasia; trumpdod; usdecline; usnavy
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To: Jim Noble

“Loss of a military target”

Did you read the first paragraph of the article? It says all of the US military bases in Asia and our naval fleet. Hello! My dear uninformed friend if the Chinese were ever stupid enough which they aren’t to inflict that level of war on the USA one of our boomers at the North Pole would blow a hole in the ice, rise to about 200 ft, 20 tubes would open and birds would fly.


141 posted on 08/19/2019 8:40:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
This entire discussion is ridiculous. Question for the group: ever wonder how people like Strzok developed their impression(s) of deplorables? Anyone recall the utter disdain with which he condescended to consider common citizens in his email exchanges?

Let's assume he developed these perspectives from CNN. OK, so where did CNN develop their material; what's their foundation? Ever consider that perhaps FR might have been prime mining ground to create cut-out figures of simplistic 'patriots'? And if that's the case, I would suggest this thread, and the kinds of replies found here would be excellent fodder to build up such caricatures.

What sense of power and/or entitlement is created when one views the US military as some kind of organization interested in protecting the common US citizen, as if they represent you and *your* freedom & liberty? Seems to me it's closer to the weird projection certain sports fans have wearing apparel and peppering conversation with 'us', as if they are somehow part of the (commercial) organization.

You and others should understand that the fed.gov does not represent you in any way, shape or form. You are a toiling, tax paying subject, long stripped of any constitutional provision. I don't know exactly when the republic died, but it was at least sometime before WW1.

These types of 'my team' threads are both sad and embarrassing. Imagine being a deep stater and just laughing at the rubes who don't have a clue.

142 posted on 08/19/2019 8:47:15 AM PDT by semantic
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To: kaehurowing
Remember, California has already allied itself with China through illegal treaties, in defiance of Trump the Constitution.
143 posted on 08/19/2019 8:51:51 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: semantic
So our military does not exist to protect us but to enslave us? Is that your argument? See how nuts that sounds when actually typed out? 😆
144 posted on 08/19/2019 8:57:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ealgeone
We could and did call in P-51s, P-47s and Typhoons to help blast away any opposition.

Did we learn nothing from the "High Way of Death" that GHWB showed us?

145 posted on 08/19/2019 10:23:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: DJ Frisat

China is more advanced technologically than the U.S. now.


146 posted on 08/19/2019 11:02:27 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Spktyr

My hovercraft is full of eels.


147 posted on 08/19/2019 11:12:37 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: cba123

Yes, China has surpassed us in many ways. They have all of our technology and have improved it. They build all that stuff, we build nothing. They build our technology. Our military runs on Chinese parts. Our government is hiding that from us. And they are almost 4 times our size.


148 posted on 08/19/2019 11:15:26 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

And the Chinese Navy and Air Force would cease to exist within moments after that.

We should be more concerned with Chico’s missiles hitting Silicon Valley and our bases on the west coast. A couple of hits in Seattle and San Fran will start the cries of surrender.

The US has not “seen” much war since the 1870’s. People would be shocked to see the Golden Gate Bridge blocking the harbor.


149 posted on 08/19/2019 11:35:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Spktyr

Only a true moron would get into a tank battle in Asia. Are you guys morons? No, I didn’t think so.

A battle with China would exist of some missiles hitting their ports and ships. If it went beyond that, it would go nuclear pretty darned fast. There is no way, logistically, to invade China. And why would we? That makes no sense.

Wars are not won with tactics. They are won with logistics.


150 posted on 08/19/2019 11:41:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Spktyr

Never should have put a boot on the ground. Incessant full scale bombing in the north would have turned them off pretty quickly.


151 posted on 08/19/2019 11:46:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

China has the problem that plagued the Soviets; the obsession with not failing. Americans test all the time and fail. When we fail, we keep making changes and keep testing.
In the Communist world, failing means you get replaced or sent to the gulag. So there is a propensity to not test something if you think it could fail.
So when the Chinese launch missiles at us, they aren’t certain they are going to work.


152 posted on 08/19/2019 11:50:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Jim Noble

I was assuming they would understand that if China defeat us they’re toast. They can all start learning Mandarin and how to use chop sticks.


153 posted on 08/19/2019 12:02:17 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Vermont Lt

Operations Rolling Thunder, Linebacker and Linebacker II didn’t seem to do much of anything.


154 posted on 08/19/2019 12:27:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Vermont Lt

In the post you reference, the topic was quality of weapons production not determining the victor in a conflict, not just tanks - in response to someone else’s post about how all Chinese and Russian rifles they’ve seen not being stellar examples of machining and finishing. If China makes a thousand ‘good enough’ but sloppily built missiles for every one we have and throws them at a CBG, we have some pretty big problems.


155 posted on 08/19/2019 12:30:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Sub launched Tomahawks and Harpoons would do serious damage to the Chicoms sea/air operations capabilities. You light up your radar, fain a massive attack with drones to get them to start launching missiles and our subs are plotting targets. Then they launch and go quite to redeploy and a bunch of chicom sea/air assets go boom.

Next you take out their man made islands with more missiles from subs and then have your air assets pound them into rumble and make their runways useless. You take out their outer islands like these and then you hit and punch at their mainland targets and if their navy sorties you make them pay. Thing is if you punch their mainland, they will go after Alaska, Hawaii and the west coast. Count on them hitting Guam, Okinawa, Japan and the Philippines if they can.


156 posted on 08/19/2019 12:35:27 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: ealgeone

I’m reading we are field testing some mounted laser on a DDG in the gulf that supposedly shoots down missiles, planes and knock the crap out of small boats. If this is successful and capable of rapid fire it would make a CBG much more formidable.


157 posted on 08/19/2019 12:41:18 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Spktyr

We bombed their “industry.” We did not bomb their homes.


158 posted on 08/19/2019 12:41:25 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: sarge83

They don’t actually care about their man made islands in a fight with the US so that would be a waste of missiles and the plan they have to screw with us logistically.

The “massive attack with drones” is something we can’t currently convincingly do against a peer or near peer opponent.


159 posted on 08/19/2019 12:43:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

No doubt. And I cringe to think of the US losing several thousand sailors in one day. I am not sure the country could handle that—no matter the reason.


160 posted on 08/19/2019 12:43:32 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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