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Many Democrats Love Elizabeth Warren. They Also Worry About Her.
NY Times ^ | 8/15/19 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/18/2019 9:23:29 AM PDT by Libloather

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These Democrats worry that her uncompromising liberalism would alienate moderates in battleground states who are otherwise willing to oppose the president. Many fear Ms. Warren’s past claims of Native American ancestry would allow Mr. Trump to drown out her policy message with his attacks and slurs against her. They cite her professorial style and Harvard background to argue that she might struggle to connect with voters from more modest circumstances than hers, even though she grew up in a financially strained home in Oklahoma.

And there are Democrats who, chastened by Hillary Clinton’s defeat in 2016, believe that a woman cannot win in 2020.

**SNIP**

Having been told by advisers to generally avoid engaging on the issue, Ms. Warren struggled in the interview to articulate an answer about whether she would respond to Mr. Trump head-on when he uses his frequent slur for her, “Pocahontas,” or pivot to a more policy-centered rebuttal.

“My job is not to be drawn off into that,” she said.

And she had little to say about why, after pledging to a Native American group last year that she would always highlight their issues when her heritage is raised, she has quietly backed away from the commitment by typically remaining silent when Mr. Trump makes his attacks.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2020election; alexanderburns; alexburns; deanbaquet; democrats; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; fauxcahontas; jonathanmartin; massachusetts; mediawingofthednc; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; slingingbull; smearmachine; thiswillnotpass; warren
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To: Libloather

♫ The old grey beaver ain’t what she used to be, ain’t what she used to be ... ♫


21 posted on 08/18/2019 9:44:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: napscoordinator

I honestly believe the DNC wants to use Warren as their Anti-Bernie candidate. She panders enough to eat away at Bernie’s base, especially since her rhetoric sounds more like Bernie in 2016 than his own at this point. Bernie’s staff is comprised of “Woke” activists who are writing his tweets talking about the epidemic of transgender suicides.

When Biden and Kamala flame out, I expect the donors will rally around her.


22 posted on 08/18/2019 9:48:26 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Kickass Conservative

I think her platform will be ME NO PAUSE!
Can’t wait to see throngs (NOT THONGS) of Siouxper stiouxpid women holding their big ME NO PAUSE ROCKS signs at rallies. Ah, good times ahead..


23 posted on 08/18/2019 9:50:07 AM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Not a good idea to use such words, at all.


24 posted on 08/18/2019 9:53:09 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Four years ago, Trump was a sensation at the Iowa Fair. Remember when he brought one of his helicopters and gave some of the kids rides? Anyhow, Trump dominated the news cycle the entire time he was there.

There is nobody in the Democratic field even approaching that level of enthusiasm. Sure, the Democrats will eventually nominate somebody and that somebody will automatically get 60 million votes no matter who they are. But no enthusiasm.

25 posted on 08/18/2019 9:53:54 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Libloather
What looks like a slow news week where #Faux took the point for the #MSM coverage du jour, is actually an attempt to lock up her VP slot.

Ever since #Karamela threw the VP slot away with both hands in the 1st Donkey Cart Debate, now the CW is that #Faux can finish 2nd or 3rd in the run up to #GropinJoe's Super Tuesday coronation, because I finally gotta agree with the observation that Bernie's heart just ain't in it this time. He's back to his preferred slant of making grunting noises in the debates, but where's his rallies? Where are his public appearances? Nah, he built that nice new Mansion on the Lake after pulling a McCain to Cankles, and knows he ain't got it anymore.

Now #Faux will ruin the ticket BUT she'll be less of a problem to internally manage than #Karamela AND -- here's the key point -- the Donkey minders will be able to pump 500 million through the campaign to themselves as a 'viable-but-losing' ticket.

26 posted on 08/18/2019 9:54:32 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: StAnDeliver
Note that this is also the week that #Robotox invest into Chakarabidati yielding the threat of future lawsuits finally shut up AOC -- only to have Tlaib go off the Reservation.

But it was also the week that #GropinJoe started talking nice-nice about GOP 'friends'.

The Mr. Nice campaign is a bore about a boor.

27 posted on 08/18/2019 9:58:43 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: laweeks

Grey Beaver/ Buttplug 2020

The double douche ticket.


28 posted on 08/18/2019 10:01:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: Libloather

Go for it Donkeys! Nominate Squaw Grey Beaver. This is your big chance to push that hard left agenda!


29 posted on 08/18/2019 10:14:15 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Shadow44

Oh gosh. That sounds awful. Even a 1% chance of president warren is frightening.


30 posted on 08/18/2019 10:35:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Libloather

in other words, given all of Warren’s negatives, some Dems (rightfully) see Warren as Hillary II ...


31 posted on 08/18/2019 10:43:23 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Libloather

It’s not going to be a woman in 2020. It’ll probably NOT be a woman for a long time to come, even though there are some real kick-@ss Conservative women out there.

The Conservative men that I know would still have issues voting for a Conservative woman, and the ‘Rats certainly won’t vote for her, either.

Very annoying. However I, too, would NEVER vote for anyone based only on their sex or race.


32 posted on 08/18/2019 10:44:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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To: Libloather

Funny how angry white elitist liberals think snobs like Warren and Bernie would win in a national election without even considering how disconnected these two are from every type of identity based dem voter except for angry white elitist liberals.


33 posted on 08/18/2019 10:47:13 AM PDT by Garden Island
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To: Libloather

“...even though she grew up in a financially strained home in Oklahoma...”

Like white trash who won the lottery and became a millionaire...still white trash.


34 posted on 08/18/2019 10:54:32 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: jz638

“I’ve never met a farmer or tradesman or homemaker or any other person of “modest circumstances” that is turned off by an educated person who treats then with common decency and respect. “

me neither. even though i’ve got two degrees in computer science, i’ve never had trouble relating to and appreciating folks with less formal education. there are many kinds of education and many kinds of skills and capabilities, and formal education is not the end-all and be-all ...

i appreciate and admire the knowledge and skills people have obtained by doing things and learning on their own, and i love to learn from them about things i don’t know about, ranging from automobile mechanics to farming to self-made businessmen ... i have friends from all walks of life and particularly cherish those that have led different lives than i have, yet are still open to admitting me, a stranger in effect, to their worlds ...


35 posted on 08/18/2019 10:56:09 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Libloather

I wonder why more of her constituents do not doubt her honesty, as she seems to be almost Clintonesque in her ability to lie. A realistic appraisal of her chances, would give her none. Fraud is not a positive thing, and she shows not a single sign of either remorse or desire to reform. She cannot be trusted with any real power.


36 posted on 08/18/2019 10:59:43 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Kickass Conservative

“...but me worry about power hungry Gray Beaver dealing with Menopause....”

She was born in menopause and is permanently in it.


37 posted on 08/18/2019 11:01:36 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: antidemoncrat

My understanding is that she was quite conservative when it suited her - before taking a hard left to run in Massachusetts and now the Dem nom.


38 posted on 08/18/2019 11:07:05 AM PDT by Moonlighter (I)
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To: Richard Axtell

Even Massachusites don’t like her. It’s not inconceivable she won’t take her own state in her party nomination or the general election.


39 posted on 08/18/2019 11:11:05 AM PDT by Moonlighter (I)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hilarious that even Demonic-Rats realize Fauxahontas has zero chances against President Trump.


40 posted on 08/18/2019 11:13:30 AM PDT by onyx
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