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Uh Oh: Recession Indicators Flashing Red?
Hotair ^ | 08/14/2019 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/14/2019 9:47:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

For the first time since the Great Recession, a major signal of impending recession has emerged. The inverted yield curve has sent investors running away from the stock market this morning, and appears to corroborate earlier warnings that the US economy is heading into a major problem:

U.S. stocks tumbled at open Wednesday after the inverted yield curve, one of the most reliable indicators of a recession, sparked a new wave of investor fears, erasing the short-lived bump from Tuesday’s trade easing.

For the first time since 2007, the yields on short-term U.S. bonds eclipsed those of long-term bonds. This phenomenon, which suggests investors’ faith in the economy is faltering, has preceded every recession in the last 50 years. Recessions typically come within 18 to 24 months after the yield curve inverts, according to research from Credit Suisse.

“The 3-month Treasury bill to 10-year note curve has been inverted for weeks now and with the inversion of the 2-year to 10-year curve. The stars are aligned across the curve that the economy is headed for a big fall,” said Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at MUFG Union Bank. “The yield curves are all crying timber that a recession is almost a reality, and investors are tripping over themselves to get out of the way.”

Donald Trump’s surprise change to tariffs yesterday had resulted in a more optimistic mood on Wall Street. Trump had earlier announced 10% tariffs on $300 billion of imports from China starting on September 1, but yesterday postponed about half of them until December 15. The goods spared from tariffs are mostly consumer goods, with Trump tacitly acknowledging that tariffs on those could damage retailers who need a good Christmas season this year:

Trump’s 10% tariffs will be effective from Dec. 15 for thousands of products including clothing and footwear, possibly buttressing the holiday selling season from some of the fallout from the protracted trade spat between the world’s two largest economies.

“We’re doing this for Christmas season, just in case some of the tariffs would have an impact on U.S. customers,” Trump told reporters in New Jersey. “Just in case they might have an impact on people, what we’ve done is we’ve delayed it so that they won’t be relevant to the Christmas shopping season.”

The reason for delaying the consumer-goods tariffs might be related to the impact on one person’s Christmas in particular. Trump can’t afford a recession, as I argue today in my column for The Week, not just for what it will do to his electoral fortunes but for how it will impact the Democratic race. A recession will push risk-averse voters to the safe choice, who will also be the toughest for Trump to beat in 2020:

A recession in 2020 would be a body blow to Trump’s campaign. A recession in 2019, or perhaps just the perception of its inevitability, might influence the Democratic primaries more than even Warren could predict. For insight, we can look back to 1992’s Democratic primary and how Carville’s axiom played out.

The Democratic field in 1991-2 was nowhere near as large as in this cycle, but it had a surprisingly similar progressive bent. Early in 1991, fresh off his Gulf War victory and with approval ratings of 89 percent at one point, Bush seemed unbeatable, which discouraged more well-known potential candidates such as Mario Cuomo and Jesse Jackson from throwing their hats into the ring. Instead, Clinton and his successful Southern centrism squared off against only one other governor, California’s Jerry Brown, at the time a favorite of left-leaning progressives. The three other major candidates in the race all came out of the U.S. Senate: Massachusetts’ Paul Tsongas, Nebraska’s Bob Kerrey, and Iowa’s Tom Harkin, all of whom came from the party’s more liberal and/or populist wing.

And yet, in the midst of a recession, the race took a surprisingly centrist tone. After recovering from the exposure of an extramarital affair, Clinton kept his focus on economic growth through traditional methods. This strategy turned out to be so successful that Brown tried changing tactics late in the primaries, swinging right to back a flat tax and abolishing the Department of Education, long a goal of Ronald Reagan conservatives. In the end, however, Democrats went with Clinton and his laser focus on the economy, a centrist who promised less of an economic revolution in the midst of uncertainty in the short recession.

If that same dynamic holds in 2020, it won’t benefit Warren even if she wins the recession-prediction sweepstakes. Voters will want stability and caution rather than radical shifts in policy, perhaps especially after the drama and unpredictability of Trump’s White House tenure. Almost the entire Democratic field has run hard to the left in order to out-Bernie Bernie Sanders; of the viable candidates remaining, only Joe Biden fits the mold. Biden also represents a restoration of the Barack Obama order, which is already attractive enough that Biden’s opponents have been forced into the role of attacking Obama to fight Biden for the nomination.

Voters tend to be risk-averse in economic downturns. That’s good news for those concerned about radicals in the Democratic Party, but it’s not good news for Trump. The economy was performing well enough for voters to roll the dice on Trump three years ago, but they may not be as sanguine about it next year if the economy hits the rocks.

With the inverted yield curve, time may have run out on that gamble. Economists have begun speaking out on the risks of recession, with the China trade war the biggest potential driver of a new downturn. Trump now has to consider just how long he wants to fight a trade war with China. Is it worth losing a second term to Biden, who will reverse Trump’s China policies almost immediately anyway? The concession on consumer goods is a signal that Trump might be looking for a way out, especially since Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross admitted that China didn’t offer any concessions for the delay:

There were no concessions from China for the U.S. decision to postpone tariffs on some Chinese imports until mid-December, U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said on Wednesday, adding that it was too early to assess where U.S.-China trade talks stand.

Ross, speaking in an interview on CNBC, added that while further telephone conversations between the two sides were discussed, a date has not been set for another round of in-person discussions.

“This was not a quid pro quo,” Ross told the television network.

It might be time to declare victory and depart the field, assuming that China’s willing to play along. If not, Trump’s taking a big gamble on a recession, and an even bigger gamble on what even the perception of an economic reversal will produce in the Democratic primary.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; recession
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To: McGruff

The democRat goal...

21 posted on 08/14/2019 10:11:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Mr. K; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; null and void; metmom
[Did they “flash red” during the 8 years of stagflation under Obama?]

Everything was great under the Kenyan Usurper. Just ask the liberal media and all delusional liberals. Oh and "jesus" walked with him and we never knew it (small "j" on purpose).

Because, like jesus, you know, totally loves the marriage of homosexuals, Planned Parenthood's butchery, purposely leaving out references to "God", promoting Mad Mo, all 11,827 genders besides male and female 'n' stuff.



I don't say "spirit of antichrist" just for laughs. This stuff is real.
22 posted on 08/14/2019 10:11:16 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: struggle

-717 now but the market is not the economy. It’s where rich people gamble and the middle class is lured in to pay their dividends or pay for their losses.

Down today up tomorrow. Where have I seen this before in my decades of years:-)


23 posted on 08/14/2019 10:13:01 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: McGruff

...and if they're really lucky by November 2020...

24 posted on 08/14/2019 10:13:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

Yes, and any Democrat talking point, it seems.


25 posted on 08/14/2019 10:13:31 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Foreign investors are being crushed by NEGATIVE interest rates, meaning that YOU pay the Bank to hold your money. So, foreign investors are buying US Bonds. The more demand there is for Bonds the LOWER the interest rate goes. That is why we have an ‘inverted yield curve’ which has been a traditional harbinger of a coming recession. Trump needs to get out in front of this and explain what the heck is going on.


26 posted on 08/14/2019 10:14:59 AM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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To: cowboyusa

[Hot Air is disgustingly Globalist.]

I almost said, bet the author has investments depending upon China sucking U.S. dollars.


27 posted on 08/14/2019 10:15:56 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

How many citizens are the democrats willing to destroy financially to accomplish their goals?


28 posted on 08/14/2019 10:15:56 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: faithhopecharity

As of 1:14pm the 10 yr yield is 1.59
2 yr yield is 1.57

No inversion.


29 posted on 08/14/2019 10:17:31 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

[How many citizens are the democrats willing to destroy financially to accomplish their goals?]

As many as it takes.

As long as they can have the marriage of poofters and worship Hollywood liberals, it’s all good. These are things that are most important to them.


30 posted on 08/14/2019 10:18:26 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Bill Maher Begs for a Recession to Get Rid of Donald Trump

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-maher-donald-trump-economy-recession-967984

HBO’s Maher and other white liberal ‘elites’ have been begging for a recession ... they feel it’s the only way to get rid of Trump. (since the Russia story was a lie and the obstruction story was a lie and the rest of their BS was a lie...)


31 posted on 08/14/2019 10:21:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (While the Medical Examiner was on lunch break, Epstein cremated himself. Freeper reddawg)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Buy low, sell high!”


32 posted on 08/14/2019 10:21:11 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ( The following statement is false. The previous statement is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I quit watching Fox and Friends, it’s just unwatchable.
I switched to FBN with Maria. Dagen McDowell is hosting while Maria is on vacation. McDowell was nearly orgasmic talking about the inverted curve and how this is the beginning of the big recession.

A local money manager has a radio program. He’s centrist as far as I can tell. His analysis is that the market is strong, the fundamentals are good, and when it drops, buy.


33 posted on 08/14/2019 10:21:26 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This phenomenon, which suggests investors’ faith in the economy is faltering ...

I think this is a misreading of this "signal."

I see an inverted yield curve with an all-time low rate on 30-year U.S. Treasury bonds as an indicator of faith in the U.S. dollar.

34 posted on 08/14/2019 10:31:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: brownsfan

Local talk radio carries Fox News radio bites. All day, they have been talking recession, recession, recession. It’s all vague but delivered in a breathless fashion...like it’s true.

Except it’s not.

Goebbels would be proud of the propaganda methods we are hearing and seeing.


35 posted on 08/14/2019 10:36:31 AM PDT by pugmama (Come fly with me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

we went through this a few months back. it’s quite likely that the buying of bonds is coming from foreign money as several international banks lowered rates last week, sending money to seek higher yields elsewhere. too soon to say. since they are stimulating their economies w/lower rates, one might suppose that would moderate the slowing being felt in Europe.


36 posted on 08/14/2019 10:41:25 AM PDT by avital2
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To: Mr. K; SeekAndFind
Did they “flash red” during the 8 years of stagflation under Obama? That should be called “The Great Recession”

Partner, this is the main reason the infantile activist MSM will not say how bad the economy was during the "America Hating Piece of Work Obama's" administration and it really just left all Americans more poor and more poor.

We did not hear one peep out of "The Giant Sixth Grade Brain Activist/Communist MSM" of how bad the "America Hating Piece of Work Obama" really was one of the worst ever as POTUS.

The America Hating Piece of Work Obama and the CEO's along with their Board of Directors established supply chains in China.

The CEO's of American Companies and Board of Directors are Anti-American Worker and pro Chicom worker since they are the ones who put in these supply chains which go against the American Patriot worker.

We need to find out how much of their supply chains are with the Chicoms. We will probably never get a list but we are positively sure that the list of traitorous American companies is long.

The present "Do Nothing Congress" led by the biggest Rat Miss Pelousy will not say or lift a finger to help out with the mess left by the America Hating Piece of Work Obama.

The U.S. has made the Chicoms what it is today and we need to end our relationship quickly, since the Chicoms want World Dominion over the U.S.A.

We owe it all to President Trump for making the U.S.A one of the great powers of the world.

37 posted on 08/14/2019 10:44:58 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: cowboyusa

Salem BS by inverts for inverts


38 posted on 08/14/2019 10:50:53 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: SeekAndFind

I see it as economic terrorism; Soros and other like-minded multibillionairs continuing to push for world conquest, the demonically-inspired Democrats and like-minded entities attacking ICE because of President Trump’s new Green Card regulations, China finally getting called to the mat because of its horiffic abuse and torture of its people, Christians and non-Christians alike, and the list goes on.

The Return of Christ is fast approaching, even at the door.

Beloved in Christ Jesus, remember: He will never leave you nor forsake you. Don’t fear the roaring and tossing of the waves, nor the screams for the blood of Jews and Christians alike. Hold fast to what you have until He comes, telling of the Great Hope you have within you, the Awesome Salvation through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Pray for President Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and their families for protection and wisdom from Almighty God, for Congress and all our branches of government, praise God for our excellent military, and for a great revival to take place in our Great Land. Oh, Lord God, that You will have mercy on us and banish this heat wave away and bring rain and cooler temperatures. Healing and deliverance for those suffering from the horrors of substance and other forms of addictions. Jesus, Your eyes are on Israel, and we add our prayers to theirs for protection and blessing and peace, as many hundreds are making Aliya and coming home.

Thank You, oh Lord God. Amen.


39 posted on 08/14/2019 10:51:24 AM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: SeekAndFind
“We’re doing this for Christmas season, just in case some of the tariffs would have an impact on U.S. customers,” Trump told reporters in New Jersey. “Just in case they might have an impact on people, what we’ve done is we’ve delayed it so that they won’t be relevant to the Christmas shopping season.”

At least he's finally learned that American consumers will be paying for the tariffs, not the Chinese.
40 posted on 08/14/2019 11:20:14 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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