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Statement from Office of Medical Examiner on Jeffrey Epstein (need more time)
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Posted on 08/11/2019 4:20:00 PM PDT by janetjanet998

New York’s Medical Examiner released a statement after completing the autopsy on Jeffrey Epstein.

His determination is that Jeffrey Epstein’s cause of death is “pending further information at this time”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1; baden; billbarr; epstein; jeffreyepstein; michaelbaden; williambarr
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To: janetjanet998

If you walk into a room and someone has something around their neck and appears to have been strangled, you “presume” a cause of death. Butthat is not a final finding.


81 posted on 08/11/2019 6:23:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Jim Noble

Perhaps they’re awaiting the results of a DNA test to verify that it was actually the real Jeffrey Epstein who died. I’m only half kidding.


82 posted on 08/11/2019 6:25:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: rainee
I find it hard to believe this guy didn’t have some secret insurance policy

He probably had a 'dead man's switch' that protected him for a while. But they finally figured out how to neutralize it. Game over.

83 posted on 08/11/2019 6:28:06 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Dr. Michael Baden was part of O.J. Simpson’s Dream Team during the 1995 O.J. trial. He testified on the witness stand for the defense.

Epstein’s lawyer hired a cartoon character to monitor the autopsy. His opinion will be as valid as it was during the OJ defense.

84 posted on 08/11/2019 6:31:50 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Diogenesis

85 posted on 08/11/2019 6:35:05 PM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Need more time to destroy evidence. The only thing that is certain is that the truth will never be known.


86 posted on 08/11/2019 6:39:38 PM PDT by Soros Billions (Gore is a pussy, Hillary : There's a man for ya)
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To: janetjanet998
his determination is that Jeffrey Epstein’s cause of death is “pending further information at this time”

"Well, you see, I cannot tell if he died from the gunshot wound, the twelve stab wounds, the poisoning, the garroting, the crushed skull, the decapitation, or the hanging."

87 posted on 08/11/2019 6:42:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: Kalam
You cannot know this, so keep your opinions to yourself until the final reports are released. Thank you.

Request denied.

88 posted on 08/11/2019 6:43:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: janetjanet998

That photo of Epstein on the gurney looks too staged.


89 posted on 08/11/2019 6:49:44 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: Vermont Lt

“Toxicology reports can take up to a month.

Not because they are backlogged. They take that long to process. This is not unique to this case.”

Nothing I said contradicts this.


90 posted on 08/11/2019 7:09:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: rx
Within a couple of hours after "Fuddy" was first declared dead, the Deputy Coroner declared the Cause of Death ("COD") to be "arrhythmia" and closed the case. An hour later the case was inexplicably re-opened and an autopsy was apparently scheduled.

The next morning, at the end of the autopsy session, the consulting Medical Examiner declared the COD to be "drowning," pending toxicology reports.   A drowning determination as a COD is implicitly a positive result based on physical evidence determined to be present, not a logical elimination of some number of other possible CsOD.   To make a drowning determination, there must have been evidence present of the involuntary inspiration of ocean water (in this case) accompanied by specific histological changes indicative of hypoxia (oxygen-starvation), such as acute congestion and swelling of the capillary endothelia or over-distension of the alveoli, to make that assertion. That positive determination, once determined to have been made, should have overridden all other CsOD, unless there was further positive evidence in the toxicological results or possibly while noticing further evidence from viewing the body during the autopsy.

Arrhythmia as a COD leaves no detectable sign of its having occurred.   If it is not observed by a competent medical professional over the few minutes in which it might have occurred, there is not trace or deciding test after-the-fact.   Arrhythmia might be a reasonable inference if the victim has had a medical history of heart troubles, but the victim’s brother represented that Ms. Fuddy was neither given to stress (as she was experienced at heading up a large organization such as the HDOH), nor did she have any history of heart disease.

The arrhythmia COD arrived upon by the Medical Examiner relied on the non-sworn representations of passengers that accompanied Ms. Fuddy through the crash aftermath. That "testimony" was relayed from the NTSB Investigator In Charge.

For the Medical Examiner to have allowed her drowning COD for which it is generally safe to presume there was positive evidence (though allusion to such only appeared in an interim report) to be overridden by statements from medically untrained observers seems highly unusual and--in context of the rest of the hoax--more than suspicious.

91 posted on 08/11/2019 7:17:40 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: dp0622

He, like a petulant child just held his breath until he died.


92 posted on 08/11/2019 7:42:59 PM PDT by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: Dacula
Ya mean like this Epstein?


93 posted on 08/11/2019 7:51:50 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: ifinnegan

My point is that going to the front of the line is not going to speed this up.

And to other folks who suggest his case should be given favorable treatment... will let you go and tell the families waiting for answers that a pedophile is more “important” than them.


94 posted on 08/11/2019 8:02:50 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: janetjanet998
Well, OK. Whatever.

But can we at least rule out a "lead snowstorm"?

95 posted on 08/11/2019 9:02:37 PM PDT by Gritty (The Left will always hate you, so stop caring about their lies. - Kurt Schlichter)
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To: Jim Noble
Nothing to see here move along. They already know - don't be so naive.

Jeffry Epstien was shocked to hear he committed suicide - thats more likely. We aren't ever going to have any clue what really happened here - even though we know who did it.

96 posted on 08/11/2019 9:12:09 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: Jim Noble

What I found interesting was the statement by a former inmate who said it’s impossible for anyone to hang themselves there because there is nothing to tie a rope or sheet on, no bars, no fixtures on the ceiling and the bedsheets are paper. So what did he do, smash his head against the wall?


97 posted on 08/11/2019 9:14:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: grey_whiskers
No this time after Session this is on president Trump. Still no FISA applications released. This our government they are trying to steal it. I don't know why president Trump isn't releasing the docs but that is irrelevant it's our country we deserve to know who and how they tried to steal the election.

This is insanity the time for waiting is over further delays is being complicit in the whole affair. We are being ruled by a bunch of wankers

98 posted on 08/11/2019 9:18:02 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: jacob allen
"That photo of Epstein on the gurney looks too staged."

The only thing staged about it is that it was released to the public.

I'm curious as to what is the date of this photo. Is it possible that it could be a photo taken three weeks ago after the first suicide attempt. He appears to be wearing a neck brace. Why would one be put on a dead man? Also his coloring is too red...unless he hung himself upside down and all the blood rushed to his head.

99 posted on 08/11/2019 11:27:23 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: janetjanet998
The aftermath of Epstein's death is just another series of "dog & pony" shows designed to offer some form of appeasement to the public and the idea of "justice".

The deed is done. Epstein is DEAD.

"Dead men tell NO tales"

100 posted on 08/11/2019 11:55:46 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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