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Some Professionally-Safe Darwin Doubters Are Now Speaking Out
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | 8-5-19 | Jerry Bergman, PhD

Posted on 08/05/2019 7:47:32 AM PDT by fishtank

Some Professionally-Safe Darwin Doubters Are Now Speaking Out

August 5, 2019 | Jerry Bergman

When the coast is clear, and their careers are safe, some academics can afford to doubt Darwin publicly.

by Jerry Bergman, PhD

My experience after teaching at three universities, when discussing Darwinism with colleagues, I have learned there exist many more Darwin skeptics than commonly believed. Most are in the closet for very good reasons (career survival), or at least they decline to publicly speak out about their views opposing Darwinism. The evidence against Darwinism is so great that it seems inevitable a few would speak out about their well-founded doubts about evolution. And some have.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
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To: semimojo

>>Do you think it’s germane or might be of interest to his readers that Gelenter has absolutely no professional connection to evolutionary science? <<

Shhhh... you will wreck the illusion!


21 posted on 08/05/2019 9:00:44 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: fishtank

The chance of one small protein chain assembling by accident is around 10 to 164th power. To have a cell you needs many many proteins all at once in a combined area behind a cell wall. Good luck with that.


22 posted on 08/05/2019 9:25:05 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: semimojo
Do you think it’s germane or might be of interest to his readers that Gelenter has absolutely no professional connection to evolutionary science?

MIT Liguistics Professor Noam Chomsky has no professional connection to "political science", yet the Left accords him respect on that topic.

23 posted on 08/05/2019 11:07:53 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Praxeologue
MIT Liguistics Professor Noam Chomsky has no professional connection to "political science", yet the Left accords him respect on that topic.

So?

Are you defending that?

24 posted on 08/05/2019 11:12:39 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Well, DNA is a programming language. Computer scientists are certainly qualified to comment on biologists’ inane theory that a programming language can write itself.


25 posted on 08/05/2019 11:18:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bwest
formation = origin?

Best to be honest (unless you're running for office).

26 posted on 08/05/2019 11:19:19 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: aspasia

What`s your point/question?


27 posted on 08/05/2019 11:55:16 AM PDT by bwest
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To: fishtank

I’ve said for at least a decade that Darwin notice MICRO-evolution in the Galapagos finches. There has been no evidence, anywhere, of MACRO-evolutionary changes. Say, a dinosaur turning into a tern, swallow, eagle, vulture, or anything else.

Just for our lungs to work, how many “evolutionary changes” would be necessary? More than one, and that means, you can’t get there from here.


28 posted on 08/05/2019 11:57:07 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: semimojo

The issue isn’t as much biology as it’s mathematics.
You don’t need an English professor to you tell you how long it would take a monkey to randomly type out the works of Shakespeare, you need a mathematician.
Darwinism posits that the changes are the result of random mutations. And scientists who understand mathematics are saying it will take much more than 4.6 Billion years for the amount of random mutations to occur that can explain complexity of life on earth.


29 posted on 08/05/2019 12:07:35 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher
And scientists who understand mathematics are saying it will take much more than 4.6 Billion years for the amount of random mutations to occur that can explain complexity of life on earth.

No mathematician can effectively model evolution without understanding the underlying mechanics of DNA mutation and all of the forces impacting "random" mutation.

We're still discovering factors that appear to influence the type and location of these mutations so the idea of someone not versed in the field being able to create a predictive model is a non-starter.

30 posted on 08/05/2019 1:05:10 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Bergman calls his prime example, Gelenter, “leading” and “esteemed”, but nowhere in the entire article does he mention that Gelenter is a professor of computer science, not any form of biology. It’s almost as if he knew it would really undercut his (implied) premise that evolutionary professionals were rejecting the theory.
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Why the ad hominem? Are you claiming biologists have all the answers?


31 posted on 08/05/2019 1:27:15 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: freedumb2003

Proof he does not understand TToE.


Do you? If so, explain how one kind of animal “evolves” into another kind. Be specific.


32 posted on 08/05/2019 1:30:14 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
Why the ad hominem?

I said nothing positive or negative about the man. I pointed out his field of study and questioned why the author didn’t mention it.

33 posted on 08/05/2019 1:49:18 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: bwest
OK, I'll give my best shot at precision: You said that evolution has never claimed to explain the origins of life while the OP said formation of life. Two different things, I thought. Or does origin = formation?
34 posted on 08/05/2019 1:54:25 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: alloysteel

Darwinism only became popular because it was anti Judeo Christian and that is still the hang-up today. The left can never admit to anything that will support the Biblical teachings.


35 posted on 08/05/2019 1:55:09 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: freedumb2003

maybe you should explain what TToE is so that the rest of us can evaluated your argument.

Google doesn’t give a good answer.


36 posted on 08/05/2019 2:03:20 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: semimojo

I said nothing positive or negative about the man. I pointed out his field of study and questioned why the author didn’t mention it.
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Your premise appeared to be that Bergman was trying to hide something, and/or Gelernter is unqualified to evaluate Charlie’s theory.


37 posted on 08/05/2019 2:08:56 PM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: dirtymac

The Theory of Evolution.

New to this, I see.


38 posted on 08/05/2019 2:19:47 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: Kalamata
Your premise appeared to be that Bergman was trying to hide something, and/or Gelernter is unqualified to evaluate Charlie’s theory.

I absolutely believe that Bergman purposely omitted Gelernter's field of study.

Don't you?

Let me ask another way. If Gelernter were a renowned evolutionary biologist do you think Bergman would have mentioned that?

As to Gelernter's qualifications to evaluate evolutionary theory, the reader has no way to evaluate if Bergman won't even say what his field of study is.

39 posted on 08/05/2019 2:19:57 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Kalamata

>>Do you? If so, explain how one kind of animal “evolves” into another kind. Be specific.<<

Since “kind” is not a scientific term there is no need to answer. Perhaps you care to rephrase?


40 posted on 08/05/2019 2:21:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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