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Yet another shooting at a gun-free zone: El Paso shooting at Cielo Vista Mall...
crimeresearch.org ^ | August 3, 2019

Posted on 08/03/2019 4:29:34 PM PDT by grundle

Full title: Yet another shooting at a gun-free zone: El Paso shooting at Cielo Vista Mall is apparently in a place that banned permitted concealed handguns

The Simon Mall chain is well known for banning permitted concealed handguns in Texas.

“Possession of any weapon at Simon malls, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of mall policy. This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at our malls, which has always been our top priority, and to avoid any situation that could potentially place at risk the safety of our shoppers and employees.

Simon malls are private property, and like virtually every other facility in the community that is accessible by the public, ownership/management has the right to prohibit the possession of weapons, both displayed or concealed, other than licensed weapons carried by law enforcement personnel.

Julie Rigby – Longview Mall Manager”

Everyone in Texas knows that they have to the proper posting for the bans to have legal effect. The statements indicate that the mall was properly posted at the entrances. Following the attacks in Gilroy, California or Virginia Beach, this is yet another attack where people were banned from being able to protect themselves. Here is a copy of the mall’s code of conduct.



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To: grundle

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21 posted on 08/03/2019 4:58:07 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: grundle
“Possession of any weapon at Simon malls, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of mall policy. This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at our malls, which has always been our top priority, and to avoid any situation that could potentially place at risk the safety of our shoppers and employees.

How'd that work out for you?

Maybe the shooter forgot to read the sign.

So now that he ignored the rules, we'll make MORE rules for shooters to ignore.

That's the ticket. That'll fix the problem.

22 posted on 08/03/2019 5:00:26 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ransomnote

They are delusional idiots over at DUmmieland.


23 posted on 08/03/2019 5:02:07 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: hadaclueonce
True????? Did Biden author Gun Free Zones.....????? It’s not a law tho, is it? 🇺🇸🙏👵🏻
24 posted on 08/03/2019 5:03:33 PM PDT by CAGOPgramma (In God we still trust!!)
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To: grundle

Forget the rules. Discreetly concealed carry if you are otherwise authorized to do so. Who will know? You could stop a situation like this.


25 posted on 08/03/2019 5:08:58 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: CAGOPgramma

Yep
Bush 41 signed it.
Look it up.
Your on high ground to give a sheet.


26 posted on 08/03/2019 5:17:50 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: CAGOPgramma

Yep
Bush 41 signed it.
Look it up.
Your on high ground to give a sheet.


27 posted on 08/03/2019 5:17:51 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: ransomnote

I pulled a pic of a bio for him that someone had posted from somewhere. Stated he is Antifa. Not sure how true it is and I don’t know how to post pics. If someone knows how and wants it emailed....


28 posted on 08/03/2019 5:18:53 PM PDT by sheana
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To: grundle

The Commie Squad gets their violence , Again


29 posted on 08/03/2019 5:24:25 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Honest Nigerian

They take away my right to protect myself, then they accept the responsibility of protecting me. And if they fail...


30 posted on 08/03/2019 5:32:13 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: ransomnote

I went there also, There were only about 4 tweets total, two of them retweets. Nothing strange at all and the last RT was on Feb 19 2017 I think.


31 posted on 08/03/2019 5:35:21 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
And if they fail...

Then you are shit out of luck. Or it just ain't your day. Either e\which one you prefer.

32 posted on 08/03/2019 5:35:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: DOC44

If this type of weapon were banned in the USA, would this type of attack stop?

Remember. Heroin is banned.

Remember that any gun was banned in that mall. That guns are banned in Chicago, where a score of people is wounded by guns every week.


33 posted on 08/03/2019 5:39:28 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: sheana

Has someone got this from you yet? I would love to have it and do that for you Sheana. Fr mail me if you like.


34 posted on 08/03/2019 5:43:27 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

Msg me an email


35 posted on 08/03/2019 5:52:11 PM PDT by sheana
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To: grundle
Most malls have "no firearms" posted. But that's just a store regulation - not a law.
If (somehow) they find you have a handgun, all they can do is ask you to leave (maybe ban you).
I always carry at the malls - screw their suicidal rules.
36 posted on 08/03/2019 5:53:04 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: lightman

“The free market will make gun free zones unaffordable or uninsurable.”

A wonderful; thing that needs to happen ASAP, because it’s the ONLY thing that will immediately reduce these horrific atrocities.


37 posted on 08/03/2019 5:57:41 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Yaelle

If the above is the sign posted at the mall entrance, it means nothing. Texas requires a 30.06 notice (named after the penal code section), that has specific requirements. The sign posted doesnt cut it.

Also, even with a 30.06 notice in place, you can still carry your weapon. The only thing they can do is tell you to leave. If you refuse, you can be issued a ticket for misdemeanor tresspass. No arrest involved.

Moral of the story.....Carry your weapon and the hell with the mall.

Red


38 posted on 08/03/2019 6:14:54 PM PDT by rednek (.45 acp........a lot like 9mm.......except for adults.)
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To: grundle

Never go to a mall unarmed no matter what their stupid signs say. It is not illegal. The most they can do is ask you to leave if they find out you are carrying. Now maybe some idiot will panic and call the cops, but Simon Malls can’t make anything illegal.


39 posted on 08/03/2019 6:29:24 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Chez Boots doesn’t do malls anymore and barely goes to a grocery.

Years ago now, I was getting tires and happened to see a prison guard and struck up a conversation. She said SHE didn’t go to malls anymore because of the (usually) gang members who ran a scam on unsuspecting people, with one person asking questions while another slid out from under a vehicle with a switchblade to cut the shopper’s ankles/leg, and a third person coming along behind in the getaway vehicle. This was well known at her work.

So, I quit going to malls and practically yell at family who do.


40 posted on 08/03/2019 6:34:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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