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How Democrats Defeat Donald Trump
NY Times ^ | July 20, 2019 | Frank Bruni

Posted on 07/21/2019 3:48:16 PM PDT by Innovative

Stop talking so much about the America that he’s destroying. Save your breath for the America you want to create.

Surprise, surprise: Donald Trump has no bottom. Just when you think he has sunk as low as he can, he stages a rally like that atrocity in North Carolina on Wednesday night and sinks lower. But the key takeaway isn’t that he’s a demagogue or a racist: These were facts put into evidence long ago. It’s that Democrats can’t afford to take unnecessary risks, dream deferrable dreams and engage in avoidable distractions as they set about the urgent work of defeating him. The 2020 election isn’t about getting everything that Democrats want and that Americans deserve. It’s about getting rid of Trump, because the price of not doing so could be this nation’s very soul.

The Democratic Party and the Democratic candidates for president need to be smarter, more realistic and more disciplined than they are now. Enough with internal feuding. Enough with taking the president’s bait and bumbling into his traps. If he sets the terms of the political discussion, he wins.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2020election; democrats; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election; election2020; frankbruni; lyinglimolib; mediawingofthednc; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; northcarolina; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; trump
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To: GOPJ
Great litany there, GOPJ.

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21 posted on 07/21/2019 4:28:35 PM PDT by poconopundit (Will Kamel Harass pay reparations? Her ancestors were black Slave Owners in Jamaica.)
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To: Innovative
the America you want to create.

Please, PLEASE run on that platform. Then all Trump has to do is point to Venezuela and say "Vote Democrat. Here is what they have in mind."

22 posted on 07/21/2019 4:30:25 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Innovative
How Democrats Defeat Donald Trump

Step 1: Stop being insane.

I'll just stop there. There are more steps but they're showing no signs of trying step 1, so never mind.

23 posted on 07/21/2019 4:32:08 PM PDT by irv (Live Tea or die!)
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To: Innovative

More Hoaxtroversy passing as news from the NY Slimes.

Nolte: Lack of Bigotry in America Forces Media to Invent ‘The Hoaxtroversy’

The “Hoaxtroversy” is our corrupt establishment media’s latest way to pretend bigotry is still a major problem in America. Which means that the media’s need to manufacture a hoaxtroversy (a controversy that proves to be a hoax) actually serves as yet one more slice of proof of just how little racism, sexism, and homophobia exists in this country.
What I mean is this…

If racism in America was anywhere as serious as the fake news media claims, would they have had to fabricate all these massive lies over the past few years? The media told us the Hispanic George Zimmerman was white. They hoaxed us with the KKKids from KKKovington High School, “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot,” and Duke lacrosse.

Each one of those phony hysterias blew up in the media’s lying face, so now they have changed tactics. Rather than invent massive national hoaxes to smear America and Americans as small-minded bigots, they have turned to the “Hoaxtroversy,” they have begun to fabricate meme-like controversies, and still they are forced to lie!

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/07/13/nolte-lack-of-bigotry-in-america-forces-media-to-invent-the-hoaxtroversy/


24 posted on 07/21/2019 4:32:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Demographics will determine, who wins control of America.)
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To: Grampa Dave

NYT - it didn’t work out for you and the Clintons last time...and it won’t work in 2020, so give it up:

29 February 2016: NYT: Inside the Clinton Team’s Plan to Defeat Donald Trump
By Amy Chozick and Patrick Healy
They were confident that his incendiary remarks about immigrants, women and Muslims would make him unacceptable to many Americans. They had faith that the growing electoral power of black, Hispanic and female voters would deliver a Clinton landslide if he were the Republican nominee...
‘Against Bigotry’
The greatest weapon against Mr. Trump, the Clintons believe, is his tendency to make outrageous, even hateful comments that can come across as unpresidential...
In South Carolina and Tennessee, Mrs. Clinton began to lay the groundwork for what advisers call “a campaign against bigotry,” in which she will present herself as the fair-minded foil to Mr. Trump...
During the Republican debate on Thursday, the Clinton campaign posted an image on Instagram that said, “These are not American values: Racism, sexism, bigotry, discrimination, inequality.”...
Mr. Trump emphatically denies being bigoted, saying he is simply not “politically correct.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/01/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-general-election.html


25 posted on 07/21/2019 4:36:48 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Innovative

“The Democratic Party and the Democratic candidates for president need to be smarter, more realistic and more disciplined than they are now”

Ain’t NONE of that gonna happen ... leftists are constitutionally incapable of acting smart or realistic, and this modern bunch are pretty much defined by lack of discipline ...

which according to the NYT means Trump will win in 2020 ...


26 posted on 07/21/2019 4:46:05 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Innovative

‘’bottom. Just when you think he has sunk as low as he can, he stages a rally like that atrocity in North Carolina on Wednesday night and sinks lower’’

Yet right after.that rally his poll numbers go 6 points above Obama at same point in term.


27 posted on 07/21/2019 4:48:08 PM PDT by Jackson Brown (Accomplished without a barrier.)
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To: Innovative

Since when has this scum been concerned about “soul?” The surest way to gain their opprobrium is to mention or be concerned a soul or spirit.


28 posted on 07/21/2019 4:49:10 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Innovative
Save your breath for the America you want to create.

Yeah, the America where the taxpayers are stuck with the hospital bills for the entire Western Hemisphere and half the Eastern when they unanimously raised their hands to volunteer us paying for every illegal.

29 posted on 07/21/2019 4:59:49 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Who's the leader of the club that feeds on dead babies? M-O-L... O-C-H... M-O-U-S-E.)
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To: MAGAthon

The libs are the mentally ill, who keep doing the same thing that didn’t work before. Then expect a different result.

A definition of insanity.


30 posted on 07/21/2019 4:59:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Demographics will determine, who wins control of America.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Crap rag, THE #1 ENEMY OF AMERICANS advising the socialist communist party how to defeat our president...freakin incredible!! THEY are not even hiding it anymore..no holds bar...THEY ARE OUR ENEMY!! And they MUST be defeated without violence!!!

Why not with violence? They are an enemy of the people, an enemy within. They will destroy our country. It will take violence to stop them.


31 posted on 07/21/2019 5:14:20 PM PDT by bubalooie
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To: dowcaet
Frank sort of gets it,
Gets what exactly?
32 posted on 07/21/2019 5:14:30 PM PDT by lewislynn (The Democrat (not democatic) Congress #1 job is to find judges to stop the President)
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To: 4Liberty

Go figure.

We’re not to judge all Muslims by a “few fanatic” lopping off heads, killing Christians, and bombing the WTC.

But ALL gun-owners are lumped in with a few crazed mass shooters.


33 posted on 07/21/2019 5:36:18 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Far too many are attracted to socialist democrat policies. Its why we are in the current distorted state we are facing.


34 posted on 07/21/2019 5:42:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 4Liberty

How about “If executing one murderer would save one life?”


35 posted on 07/21/2019 5:43:09 PM PDT by Luke21 (The Hill sucks.)
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To: Innovative

What the hell is this? This was really in the NY Times?!!


36 posted on 07/21/2019 6:06:04 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: Agatsu77

Check the link.

It is in the NYT.


37 posted on 07/21/2019 6:34:05 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: VeniVidiVici
What Democrat policy is attractive to any American? Even unions, other than government unions, can’t possibly hope to get their members to vote Democrat.

I with that were true, but there are millions and millions of people out there who think they can get something for nothing by voting for Democrats.

38 posted on 07/21/2019 6:35:49 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: cincinnati65

“But the key takeaway isn’t that he’s a demagogue or a racist: These were facts put into evidence long ago.”
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Long ago. Meaning, the minute he announced he was running for president as a republican.


39 posted on 07/21/2019 8:36:30 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Innovative
Absolutely they should defend the four congresswomen, and make clear that they are every bit as American as Trump is.

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Except that Trump didn’t use another name to fake his way into the country on another family’s refugee status. Nor did he marry his sister to get her into the country. So...

We used all those words in 2016 — racist, demagogue, fascist — and he won. Voters saw indelible examples of this same behavior, and he won.

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Except that there were no such examples. All America saw and heard were that Trump was against illegal aliens, and foreign terrorists. He had nothing against Latinos, either Americans or those in other countries. He was against Hispanic and other ILLEGAL ALIENS coming across the border. Disagree with that if you will. But it is not racism. He was never anti-Muslim. He was against Islamic Terror, as enacted by those two in San Bernardino who shot up their Christmas party, during his campaign.

The article ends with the idea that running a centrist Democrat, ignoring Trump, and definitely not pushing any of the left wing ideas now being pushed, and Dems would win. They might have a little point there. They got in as many Orange Man Bad insults they could, then basically said progressivism won’t work, just get rid of trump with a milque toast candidate.

40 posted on 07/21/2019 9:20:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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