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Expert: ‘Exodus’ from high-tax states like New York, California ‘just beginning’
The National Sentinel ^ | 6/21/19 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 06/21/2019 6:39:34 AM PDT by SleeperCatcher

Thanks in large part to the Trump-GOP tax reform law passed in December 2017, residents of high-tax states like New York, New Jersey, and California are leaving in high numbers — and the exodus is only just beginning, say experts.

“It took a few months for taxpayers to realize the dollar implications – until they actually filed their tax returns this year,” Alan Goldenberg, a principal at Friedman LLP, told Fox Business. “It quantified the impact of the loss of the SALT deduction when people saw it in front of their eyes on their tax return.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bluestates; california; exodus; flee; hightaxes; miserablefailure; newyork; taxandspend; taxes; taxreform; trends; trumptaxcuts
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To: vette6387
I thing that the more pressing issue is what to do about the big, RAT-run cities in EVERY STATE!

That's why I beat the drum for Electoral College votes awarded by Congressional District. That way, no matter how large a vote the city turns in, it will only skew the votes for that district, not the entire state. At least the rural areas will still have a voice.

I'd like to see voting broken down the same way by County, as the Universal Background Check vote in Nevada a few years ago showed:

81 posted on 06/21/2019 3:24:10 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: sheana

Your probably right....

I left New York State and moved toColorado...

Twenty years later move to Florida

Colorado went from light purple to deep blue

Florida is one election away from blue...

I am to old to move again..where would I go Wyoming maybe


82 posted on 06/21/2019 3:25:02 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Kickass Conservative

I disagree. High SALT states have been using their profligate spending with fed tax credits as a shield aginst fiscal responsibility for decades. I lived in upstate NY until age 38 or so. In one of the lowest cost areas of the state, on a quarter acre plot with an average house, I paid 10s of thousands of dollars in taxes each and every year. Since then, I have lived in Georgia and Kansas.

The saner taxation in the latter 2 states mean I am not near the 10k limit.

The punishment to the middle class is a symptom of their own choice - to stay in a high tax state. The punishment to the high tax state is much more serious, and completely deserved.

High tax states have been stealing from low tax states for decades.


83 posted on 06/21/2019 3:38:32 PM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Oatka

“That way, no matter how large a vote the city turns in, it will only skew the votes for that district, not the entire state.”

Unfortunately, your analysis leaves out the fact that big cities a). have large numbers of congressional districts and b) it’s worse because until now, hopefully, the Census has counted “everyone” and those numbers have been used to craft Congressional Districts, and as a consequence, the large cities have even more Congressional Districts than their “legitimate populations” would suggest.
If Trump is able to get the “citizenship question” re-instituted, Los Angeles County ( as a prime example) will loose something like SIX CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS as a consequence


84 posted on 06/21/2019 5:19:36 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
Unfortunately, your analysis leaves out the fact that big cities a). have large numbers of congressional districts

I understand, as well as the risk of gerrymanding, but it seems to me that the rural CDs would outnumber the city's. Probably depends upon the state. At the least, it would whittle down the amount of EC votes the metro area could deliver, instead of the whole hog. How many of California's 55 would be siphoned off by the conservative districts?


85 posted on 06/21/2019 6:35:51 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: Kickass Conservative

Your State and Local taxes have nothing to do with the fed.

Pay for it in your state.


86 posted on 06/21/2019 6:44:23 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: House Atreides
I still think the SALT Deduction should have been at least $20,000, not the $10,000 that made it to the final Tax Bill. ************************************************ Since there are now fewer people itemizing deductions, it should be possible next time to reduce the SALT deduction ceiling to $5,000 or, better yet, eliminate it entirely.

Absolutely. This deduction was just a sop to get the law passed, it should be eliminated completely.

87 posted on 06/22/2019 2:40:10 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Kickass Conservative
The limited SALT Deduction goes right to the heart of Middle Class Homeowners who are paying high Property Taxes and State Income Taxes.

And this bad in what way? They don't have to pay these high taxes if they don't like, they can vote, and if that doesn't work, they can vote with their feet. No, I'm sorry, they choose to pay these high taxes for whatever reasons, that does not mean that other taxpayers have to subsidize them.

88 posted on 06/22/2019 2:45:58 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You really want to give leftists more seats?


89 posted on 06/22/2019 3:45:30 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Kickass Conservative
As someone said years ago, all Politics is local.

Not mine. I live in NYS. But I'm an American. The good of the nation comes first. That cap is good for the nation.

90 posted on 06/22/2019 3:49:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds,)
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To: SleeperCatcher

Like stage 4 cancer, progressivism spreads.


91 posted on 06/22/2019 4:03:15 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: sheana

We moved out of CA for a myriad of reasons, Family, Financial and Freedom.

Leaving was not an easy decision, but circumstances change and it was time for a new adventure.

We are Old People who have spent the last decade taking care of Old People. Now they are gone and we decided to move near the remaining Family we have, which includes more Old People to look after. It’s a vicious cycle....

Many here like to take swipes at those People who choose to stay behind enemy lines and fight the good fight. You are not alone, just outnumbered.

Heck, Free Republic is based in Fresno, CA. Is Jim being browbeat to move because the Rat Mafia runs the place?

Someday we may end up back in CA. We have not severed all ties there. I have Leukemia and I will always go to the same Oncologist I have there. He has kept me alive for over 13 Years and I’m not changing Horses in the middle of the stream no matter where I decide to live.


92 posted on 06/22/2019 7:08:27 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I love California. I’m an ocean gal. Have a boat in Ventura Harbor that is my 2nd home. Alll the old folks are gone now but my kid and grandkids are here. Only other family I’m close too lives in northeast Oklahoma and northwest Arkansas. I go for a visit every year. Just got back. My cousin said.....when are y’all moving here? I said never. I don’t like it here. Lol. I hate that everywhere I go people want to talk to me. I’m not much of a people person. Lol. I don’t like the ‘slowness’ oof the culture there compared to California. I don’t like their architecture when looking at homes. I guess I’m just a Cali Gal. And the big one......I’m not moving anywhere where I don’t know anyone! Hubby is even more anti social than I am and I know it would be a very lonely existence. I’ll stay right where I’m at.


93 posted on 06/22/2019 7:16:24 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Kickass Conservative

And good luck with the leukemia! I too am a survivor of cancer.


94 posted on 06/22/2019 7:18:00 AM PDT by sheana
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