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The author has watched too many episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation.
1 posted on 06/11/2019 9:14:46 AM PDT by C19fan
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And you wonder why I don't read the New York Times with its parochial and sanctimonious attitude in 2019.
2 posted on 06/11/2019 9:18:46 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Or has taken too much drugs?


3 posted on 06/11/2019 9:19:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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I have huge doubts, but no more factory farming would be a blessing.


4 posted on 06/11/2019 9:21:07 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace

I like to think (and
the sooner the better!)
of a cybernetic meadow
where mammals and computers
live together in mutually
programming harmony
like pure water
touching clear sky.

I like to think
(right now, please!)
of a cybernetic forest
filled with pines and electronics
where deer stroll peacefully
past computers
as if they were flowers
with spinning blossoms.

I like to think
(it has to be!)
of a cybernetic ecology
where we are free of our labors
and joined back to nature,
returned to our mammal
brothers and sisters,
and all watched over
by machines of loving grace.

— Richard Brautigan (1967)


5 posted on 06/11/2019 9:21:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Communism is evil.


6 posted on 06/11/2019 9:23:22 AM PDT by karnage
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Does NYT not want us to know that Communism is only good for those at the top, or are they too stupid themselves to know?


8 posted on 06/11/2019 9:30:58 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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The author has watched too many episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Yeah no kidding. Once they lick the obstacles on the replicator why bother going to work at all?


9 posted on 06/11/2019 9:34:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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I once had a Professor that said the only way Communism will ever work is if we get to a point technologically where nothing has any value anymore, basically like the replicator on Star Trek, you hit a button and anything you want materializes in front of you.

Personally I don't think it would work even then, it's simply against human nature. If it came to that point, people would compete over who had the biggest, fastest replicator or who could materialize the nicest house and clothes.

12 posted on 06/11/2019 9:39:39 AM PDT by apillar
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Paid for by the ....... rich? Who won’t be around after their money is taken, then back to being enslaved.


15 posted on 06/11/2019 9:44:12 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Throw in some maggots, crickets and inchworms too. For added flavor. Then eat the concoction, you f****** hypocrites! instead of eating caviar and fillet mignon, you filthy slobs! I’ll eat what I like.


17 posted on 06/11/2019 9:49:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Islam, not a religion, a totalitarian political ideology aiming for world domination. -Wilders)
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Communism only leads to starvation and death.
Read these for the REAL TRUTH about Communism !
18 posted on 06/11/2019 9:51:01 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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This ‘technology’ is essentially just cell culture - which has been around for a long, long, time. They are culturing myoblasts. It takes a whole lot of myoblasts to make a hamburger.. This requires lots of culture media, probably a variety of growth factors, and at the end of the day I would want a very, very extensive characterization of what’s in this before considering eating it. That said, it could work.


20 posted on 06/11/2019 9:52:13 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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>>The author has watched too many episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation.<<

God bless the Ferengi. After “we are too far evolved to use filthy money” the Ferengi were 100% clear: money is how we acquire. Aquisition requires money. Screw your egalitarian crap Federation. Captain Picard is paid the same as Ensign Redshirt? Yeah, right.

DS9 was a MUCH MORE REALISTIC portrayal of people in the next century. Holo porn, dabo girls, gambling — it may be distasteful but that is the very definition of freedom.


21 posted on 06/11/2019 9:56:34 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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But there’s a catch. It’s called capitalism. It has created the newly emerging abundance, but it is unable to share round the fruits of technological development.

This said in a city where every welfare bum has a cell phone? The author's argument is essentially, "Capitalism has created unprecedented wealth and the potential for fantastic technological progress - let's get rid of it!" Some folks are too stubbornly dumb to teach without whacking them with a rolled-up newspaper.

23 posted on 06/11/2019 9:59:43 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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29 posted on 06/11/2019 10:21:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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One of the great lines from ST:TNG.

CDR. William T Riker: “We no longer enslave animals for food purposes.”

It was intended to show how much more morally advanced they were over us in the 20th Century, but it leaves one wondering for which purposes they continued to enslave animals.


31 posted on 06/11/2019 10:38:06 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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Aaron Bastani, the emperor of Dumbassistan.


33 posted on 06/11/2019 10:55:34 AM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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Actually what the world needs is to start paying rent. The planets landlord claims it’s been a couple thousand years. Lol.


35 posted on 06/11/2019 11:06:04 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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My response rant elsewhere:

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Author is delusional.

"Ours is an age of crisis. We inhabit a world of low growth, low productivity and low wages, of climate breakdown and the collapse of democratic politics. A world where billions, mostly in the global south, live in poverty. A world defined by inequality."

Word thinking trumps any connection to reality in the article. A crisis is declared (no objective contrast with history), terms of badness are enumerated, and a glorious solution declared by removing the one thing that is getting us anywhere close to that goal.

No notice is taken that abject poverty has plummeted from majority thru history to single digit % in a few decades.

Growth may not be as high as it was, but is still in a historically high range. Low end productivity has risen; baseline standards are redefined. US poverty line is at 80th percentile of world income, which in turn has increased.

Climate is not broken. Change requires careful detection to discern, and measurements are debatable.

Democratic politics faces collapse only because Democrats refuse to accept outcome of elections.

Poverty exists, increasingly suffering from 1st world problems instead of 4th.

Having simply declared bad all things capitalist, author then hails sci-fi solutionsl (lab grown meat, asteroid mining, pervasive robotics) while explicitly disallowing the one thing motivating all progress toward those goals: profit motive.

Progressives chronically assume productivity & progress motivated & facilitated by profit will continue without it. They want Elon Musk to succeed (rockets, electric cars) without allowing the incentive of riche$ nor financial tools (able to throw billion$ at a problem fast).

Sam Walton made goods cheap & available, hiring millions in the process. Wouldn't have done without profit to enjoy & leverage.

Jeff Bezos made everything available to all, easy catalog/ordering/delivery. Motivated & enabled by profit.

Progressives fail to grasp that money represents productivity, that disincentivized productivity ends it (Soviet aphorism: "they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work"). Money is not a durable natural resource needing only redistribution.

Upshot: the article is not satire, it is distilled economic fantasy earnestly believed by many who believe their purpose is to slay the goose that they may enjoy endless golden eggs.

37 posted on 06/11/2019 11:30:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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Tribbles taste just fine if marinated and grilled.


49 posted on 06/11/2019 3:57:02 PM PDT by Libloather (Global warming is AWESOME!)
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