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Recreational marijuana in Colorado: What the numbers say about health, safety and tax dollars
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 30, 2019 | Robert McCoppin

Posted on 06/11/2019 9:08:58 AM PDT by fwdude

A bill to legalize recreational marijauna in Illinois needs only the signature of Gov. J.B. Pritzker to become law. Colorado has had legal recreational marijuana since 2014. The Colorado Division of Criminal Justice last year came out with an analysis of the effects of the state's legalization of retail sales of marijuana since it went into effect in 2014. It found teen use had not increased, but hospital visits and fatal accidents associated with marijuana use increased. The authors cautioned that many factors can influence the statistics in the report, including people's willingness to admit marijuana use now that it's legalized in the state. Here is a rundown of some of the major findings.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannabis; colorado; freedom; godsplant; illinois; marijuana; medicine; miracleplant; pot; potheads; reefermadness; wod
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To: -YYZ-

I studied a lawsuit in Seattle which tests the same and the motorist tested toxic even two weeks after his last smoke


61 posted on 06/11/2019 10:55:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: DesertRhino

After pot was legalized last fall in Canada, our condo board’s insurance premiums for the property went up considerably. Correlation -> causation?

Well, no, it probably has a lot more to do with the two damaging wind storms we had last summer than damaged roofs and knocked down trees.


62 posted on 06/11/2019 10:55:53 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: -YYZ-

Interesting.

On a related subject, never mind pot not being meth, it’s not even alcohol where driving impairment is involved. I know how much I need to drink over what period to reach the legal limit (about 5 12 oz beers over the period of an hour or so), and my impairment level from that is way above what just about any amount of dope could do to me.


63 posted on 06/11/2019 10:59:10 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Mariner

If they had actually read it they likely would not have posted it

It’s not quite up to narrative

I’ve spent a lot time in colorado

Sadly it’s not the colorado I knew as a boy....a cowboy state with Denver as it’s Dallas

Then the California folks came

Then the Hispanics streamed in

Now it’s like California

The eastern prairie and western slope are only place remotely like I remember from fifty years ago

When colorado went medical it brought in pot transients was first thing I noticed

Then when rec came that increased

Colorado is now not alone and I’d guess the draw has slowed

I have said here before I preferred medical laws which made it available but more restricted

Rec brought more tax revenue though


64 posted on 06/11/2019 11:01:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: gundog

So it is the Mango Sorbet of stoning.


65 posted on 06/11/2019 11:03:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: -YYZ-

No, in 2018 State Farm -alone- paid out 600 million in hail claims. And that was up 37% from the year before which was also bad.

Hail is driving this, not those wind storms. Especially when speaking of auto insurance.


66 posted on 06/11/2019 11:03:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: -YYZ-

Correlation -> causation?

Exactly. Correlation isn’t causation. Every time I break wind, 18 people in China fall dead of a heart attack. But my gas isn’t killing Chinamen.


67 posted on 06/11/2019 11:06:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: fwdude

Nothingburger:

“The Healthy Kids Colorado Survey of more than 50,000 middle and high school students found that the percentage of youths using marijuana in the past 30 days remained unchanged between 2014 and 2017, at 19 percent.”

“Researchers say it’s unclear to what extent marijuana caused the increase [in hospitalization rates with possible marijuana exposures, diagnoses or billing codes], or how much the rise was due to people coming in for other reasons who happened to have also consumed pot.”


68 posted on 06/11/2019 11:07:23 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t doubt you, I was just supporting the repudiation of the correlation equals causation fallacy.

Statistics can be useful if you’re really looking for truth and willing to spend the intellectual effort to understand what they may really mean. OTOH, if you’re just looking to bolster some pre-determined point of view... they’re also useful when misused.


69 posted on 06/11/2019 11:07:24 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: DesertRhino
Exactly. Correlation isn’t causation. Every time I break wind, 18 people in China fall dead of a heart attack. But my gas isn’t killing Chinamen.

Just keep telling yourself that. We know the truth.

70 posted on 06/11/2019 11:07:28 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: wardaddy

Were the levels of thc measured in thier umbilical cord toxically high? What were the numbers.
I can’t tell you how many times people cite.. my kids were born after i regularly took lsd.. That is not science and it doesn’t have comparable data sets.
It would however land you a great job at the ipcc predicting global warming.
Unfortunately, data comparison is my 30 year career... so it’s not skepticism, it’s a job hazard.


71 posted on 06/11/2019 11:16:19 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: momincombatboots
The toxic levels of thc found in the umbilical cords of newborns has risen

"Toxic" defined how? Researchers have never managed to kill a single lab animal larger than a rat with THC.

72 posted on 06/11/2019 11:19:25 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fwdude

> hospital visits and fatal accidents associated with marijuana use increased

That’s because of edibles.

-SB


73 posted on 06/11/2019 11:30:42 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: fwdude

Read today that in calipornia the legal pot sellers are up in arms over the illegal ones and want the cops to come down hard on Dem!


74 posted on 06/11/2019 11:51:16 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: fwdude
I live in Colorado (suburban Denver) and find a lot of the comments on this thread to be anecdotal at best. Auto insurance rates have NOT sky rocketed in this state. There are PLENTY of great guys who are not stoners here. It's well known that Denver is known as "Menver" bc so many guys have been attracted to the ski slopes/ hiking/ biking/ climbing and other outdoor activities for years. This was going on long before MJ was legal in the state. I also think statistics are skewed b/c there are certainly people who visit or have moved here b/c of legal weed.

I have had my medical license for many years- long before we had legal pot. I don't smoke weed but have found relief with CBD and THC oils, tinctures and salves. States that have medical weed available have lower rates of opioid use and seniors are a huge consumer of weed products.

Everyone just needs to keep their minds open on all this. As with any big change, there are bumps in the road. Overall, I think it has been a positive experience for Colorado and I support it.

75 posted on 06/11/2019 12:16:18 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Erik Latranyi

LOL, they would propose something like that anyway on the grounds that they are dangerous and besides so few people have the needed permit it would only harm the ‘crazies’. They are vindictive like that. The type of people who would harass a baker with requests to make a cake depicting a devil in an act of sodomy, then sue him when he refuses.


76 posted on 06/11/2019 12:24:32 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: gundog

Well you probably also want to dump it out before you drive, because a load of bong water spilled on the carpet of your car is not ideal.


77 posted on 06/11/2019 1:08:23 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wardaddy

“Uptick in folks getting too high and running to the emergency room having a panic attack...”

The problem isn’t smoking or dabbing, it’s the edibles. Idiots refuse to listen when the guy in the dispensary warns them that “one gummie bear is enough”, and then end up thinking they are going to die when they start tripping.


78 posted on 06/11/2019 1:10:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

True. Looked pretty dirty, though. And they stayed a while after that. Mostly they just look at the lake, talk, and laugh like idiots.


79 posted on 06/11/2019 1:17:28 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Boogieman

I myself warn newbies to try one first even though I don’t smoke

Cause like the North I remember


80 posted on 06/11/2019 1:24:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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