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Governor signs bill outlawing child-like sex dolls
Florida Politics ^

Posted on 05/25/2019 11:44:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law Thursday a measure outlawing the sale or possession of child-like sex dolls that lawmakers argue promote sexual urges among pedophiles.

However, some groups have argued just the opposite, saying those dolls can help prevent pedophiles from acting on those urges with actual children.

The legislation (SB 160) was sponsored by Sen. Lauren Book and was unanimously approved by both houses of the Legislature. Rep. Michael Gottlieb filed a companion measure in the House (HB 1107).

“A person may not knowingly sell, lend, give away, distribute, transmit, show, or transmute … an obscene, child-like sex doll,” the legislation says.

Violation of the law is a third-degree felony, with subsequent violations being deemed second-degree felonies.

Groups such as the Prostasia Foundation, which identifies itself as a child sexual abuse prevention group, have spoken out against the legislation, arguing it will endanger children.

“If we surveyed victims of childhood sexual abuse, I wonder how many would say they WISHED their abusers had a sex doll who might have taken their place?,” asked Dr. James Cantor, who advises the group.

But Book has countered that claim in advocating for the bill. She once again made the case following the Governor’s signing of the legislation.

“These are anatomically correct, lifelike silicone dolls that are eerily similar to real human children made for the sole purpose of sexual gratification,” Book said.

“Just as viewing child pornography lowers the inhibitions of child predators, so do these childlike sex dolls that have no place in the state of Florida. We want to make our state as unfriendly to child predators as possible.”

Book, who is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, says she learned of the dolls through her work with Lauren’s Kids. That foundation was started by Book and offers help to abuse victims.

A December report from CBC details at least 42 such dolls being seized at the Canadian border in the previous two years. The sex dolls possess “child-like dimensions and features,” according to the piece.

And a few months earlier in Kentucky, officials attempted to arrest and charge a man who had purchased similar dolls from China. While law enforcement argued possession of the dolls was akin to possession of child pornography, a judge dismissed all charges against the man.


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To: SauronOfMordor
Not according to Ashcroft vs Free Speech Coalition SCOTUS case where it struck down most of the CPPA.

Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, case in which, on April 16, 2002, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a lower court’s decision that provisions of the Child Pornography Prevention Act (CPPA) of 1996 were vague and overly broad and thus violated the free-speech protection contained in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The act specifically proscribed computer-generated or -altered depictions of minors engaging in explicit sexual conduct (so-called “virtual” child pornography) and images of explicit sexual conduct by adults who resemble minors. The court ruled that the law’s expanded definition of child pornography as including any image that “appears to be” of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct or that is “presented…in such a manner that conveys the impression” that it is of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct would criminalize images that are not obscene and images that were not produced with any real children.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Ashcroft-v-Free-Speech-Coalition

There was a case recently in Tennessee or Kentucky where police arrested a man who had got one of these child sex dolls. The police claimed it was equivalent to child porn. A judge dismissed the case outright.

41 posted on 05/25/2019 1:48:24 PM PDT by david1292
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To: null and void

No, we are not “just guessing”.

Now the people who defend this crap are (without exception) nasty people who discount what the victims of pedophiles say about the people who raped them as children, and also what pedophiles admit about themselves in rehabilitation programs.


42 posted on 05/25/2019 1:57:52 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd

Cite please? I’d love to be able to cram it in the face of a defender of a dangerous ‘toy’...


43 posted on 05/25/2019 1:59:09 PM PDT by null and void (The press is always lying. When they aren't actively lying, they are actively concealing the truth.)
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To: MrEdd
It doesn’t at all keep them from attacking real children.

That is my fear. But if they are attacking their toy, they are not attacking a child.

44 posted on 05/25/2019 2:00:32 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Herman Ball

America has many, many, sick, degenerate, dead souls whose numbers have been multiplying via behavior means protected by the insane demon rat agenda of ‘tolerance’ enforces by political correctness. The DNC is gradually but successfully aborting the Republic. I’m glad I’m not long for this world ‘cause there is no tellin’ what I would do when the evil gets to the home invasion in the name of tolerance and diversity level the sick demon rats have planned for US.


45 posted on 05/25/2019 2:01:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Sadly, there is no longer a ‘normal society’ in America. The demon rats have erased that via their active defense and promotion of degeneracy.


46 posted on 05/25/2019 2:06:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Drew68

Taken inventory have ya?


47 posted on 05/25/2019 2:08:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: FatherofFive

next there will be a law regarding what you can think about when you have an erotic dream


48 posted on 05/25/2019 2:08:27 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: david1292

yes, in fact that has been studied ... by the DIA.


49 posted on 05/25/2019 2:10:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: david1292

Make that the DARPA gaggle that has studied this.


50 posted on 05/25/2019 2:12:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SoFloFreeper; flaglady47
Kudos to our new Florida Gov. DiSantis.....he's making all the right moves....and I mean "right".

Leni

51 posted on 05/25/2019 2:17:16 PM PDT by MinuteGal ( MAGA ! ! !....MAGA ! ! !....MAGA ! ! !)
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To: 10mm
What if the doll is marketed as a youthful-looking midget? As disgusting as this is, I don’t think the law is enforceable.

As disgusting as it is, it will be tossed by the courts. Back about 10 years ago the Federal Government passed a law slapping the same penalties on "depictions" of child pornography (cartoons, computer generated images and the like) as real child pornography. The Supreme Court tossed the law, saying such depictions were protected free speech because unlike real child pornography no actual illegal act took place in its production.

52 posted on 05/25/2019 2:46:19 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Wouldn’t that be akin to saying cartoon images of a murder should be treated as an actual murder?


53 posted on 05/25/2019 2:57:33 PM PDT by raybbr (The left is a poison on society. There is no antidote. Running its course will be painful. You)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“I know it when I see it”...

...but...

...there had better be an iron clad definition of “childlike” that splits hairs between 17 364/385 and 18.


54 posted on 05/25/2019 3:05:51 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Is there one that looks like Chucky?


55 posted on 05/25/2019 3:25:42 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t care what somebody does with a piece of plastic in their own basement, better that then a human being.

I also don’t buy the gateway argument that this will suddenly turn someone into a pedo. You can just as easily argue the opposite that this will prevent crimes.


56 posted on 05/25/2019 3:58:17 PM PDT by jarwulf
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To: MHGinTN

The Democrats are Evil and should be destroyed like they are destroying America but sooner.


57 posted on 05/25/2019 4:26:09 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sure— the morons against this ban-— “give them a substitute doll to practice on”!! And continue to entertain their perversion and drive themselves to commit the perversion with live victims. Sick lib mentality.

One sure answer— neuter them, chemically and in repeat offenders (males anyway) remove the ‘tower of power’ and the love apples surgically if necessary— make sure they can still pee and heal without infection. Course it wouldn’t stop other pervert behaviour... with the hands and inanimate objects used on a victim, etc.


58 posted on 05/25/2019 5:22:18 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: sparklite2
"...No thanks. I'll eat it here..."

Did he take out his dentures first?

59 posted on 05/25/2019 7:46:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: Drew68

I’ve always thought that people obsessed with elves and faeries are probably closeted pedos. If you look at a lot of the Deviant Art drawings, they’re basically young children, skimpily clad, in provocative poses. They just put pointed ears and wings on them and Voila, they’re faeries.


60 posted on 05/25/2019 7:53:45 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady ( Political correctness forbids discussing any negative outcomes of Left-wing ideology. -PMcL)
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