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Sadly , we have to wait for Roberts( & Kavanaugh as well?)
1 posted on 05/14/2019 6:49:31 AM PDT by SMGFan
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Is Roe in Danger? Liberal Justices Seem to Think So

The Supreme Court made clear on Monday that Roe v. Wade may soon no longer be the law of the land. The decision, Franchise Tax Board of California v. Hyatt, actually has nothing to do with abortion; it concerns when one state may be sued in another state’s courts.

But Hyatt has everything to do with the Supreme Court’s respect for precedent. And respect for precedent is one of the few things, if not the only thing, that stands between the conservative Roberts court and overruling Roe v. Wade. Hyatt made clear that the five conservative justices are perfectly content to overrule a precedent merely because they disagree with it. That should raise alarm bills about Roe, particularly as states enact draconian restrictions on abortion.

In Hyatt, the justices were asked to overrule the court’s 1979 decision in Nevada v. Hall, which held that an individual could sue a state in the courts of a different state.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/opinion/roe-supreme-court.html


2 posted on 05/14/2019 6:52:21 AM PDT by SMGFan ("God love ya! What am I talking about")
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When will people realize that Roe vs Wade was NOT the precedent.

The almost 200 years before Roe vs Wade was the legitimate precedent which made sense....you don't kill babies. T

hey have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

3 posted on 05/14/2019 6:53:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Very unlikely this will happen unless there is a sizable shift in the Country.
ABC is trying to rally the Bots.


4 posted on 05/14/2019 6:53:35 AM PDT by Zathras
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No, they both joined in this ruling...


5 posted on 05/14/2019 6:54:40 AM PDT by nwrep
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The should overrule the abomination known as homosexual marriage. No where is that perversion in the constitution.


6 posted on 05/14/2019 6:54:50 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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Funny how the left isn’t (gay)married to stare decisis when it comes to cases like Bowers v. Hardwick.


7 posted on 05/14/2019 6:55:21 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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> If you think the Supreme Court’s conservative majority won’t touch well-established legal precedent... <

At one time, slavery was well-established and legal.
Just sayin’.


8 posted on 05/14/2019 6:55:40 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Wickard v Filburn needs a review.

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9 posted on 05/14/2019 6:59:56 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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If stare decisis meant ‘settled law’ then the Dred Scott decision would mean we still have slavery..............


10 posted on 05/14/2019 7:02:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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Let's try this a different way - and let's see if the pro-abortion side would agree with this syntax:

If you think the Supreme Court's anti-slavery majority won't touch well-established legal precedent: think again.

In a 5-4 ruling on Monday, the court overturned a 40-year-old precedent in a low-profile slavery case, a move slave holding states see as a potential indication that the precedent set by Dred Scott vs Sanford could be under threat.

Justice John McLean wrote for the majority, "stare decisis does not compel continued adherence to this erroneous precedent," referring to the principle of legal precedent.

He did not suggest that there was an urgent issue or functional problem with existing doctrine -- simply that it was wrong.

Justice James Moore Wayne, in a dissent from the court's liberal justices, quoted from a high-profile slavery case and asked, "which cases the court will overrule next?"

"It is one thing to overrule a case when it 'def[ies] practical workability,' when 'related principles of law have so far developed as to have left the old rule no more than a remnant of abandoned doctrine,' or when 'facts have so changed, or come to be seen so differently, as to have robbed the old rule of significant application or justification,'" Wayne wrote, quoting from various State cases that upheld the constitutionality of slavery.

11 posted on 05/14/2019 7:03:07 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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It’s the problem with court made law- it is easily unmade by the same authority that created it. Only the constitution is sacrosanct.


12 posted on 05/14/2019 7:04:17 AM PDT by Spok
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Kennedy & co, weren’t shy about over-turning Bowers v. Hardwick, which had ruled (in the ‘80s!) that a state could enforce its anti-sodomy statutes.


14 posted on 05/14/2019 7:07:20 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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On another thread, somebody Noted that Plessy v. Ferguson, which upheld racial segregation, was established precedent from 1896 until 1954's Brown v. Board of Education
15 posted on 05/14/2019 7:10:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Roberts would side with the libs on Roe.

But alarmed liberals is always a good thing. Keeps them busy.


16 posted on 05/14/2019 7:10:22 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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I hope we can replace RBG before it comes up to SCOTUS.


19 posted on 05/14/2019 7:15:52 AM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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I very much want Roe v Wade to be overturned.

However, that would result in major changes in our society and there would be disruption as people became adjusted. Conservatives tend to understand the law of consequence (intended or unintended).

If abortion were illegal, our cultural view of sex would need to change, we would need different adoption laws, and probably institutions akin to orphanages. It would not be a picnic. But, in my opinion, much better than murdering 60 million innocent babies.


20 posted on 05/14/2019 7:18:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Not a very good week for stare decisis overall.


22 posted on 05/14/2019 7:22:41 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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The though if being kept from their child sacrifices creates abject terror.

We are worse than the Mayans.


24 posted on 05/14/2019 7:31:30 AM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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Roberts will find a fetus is a tax...nevermind. Libs would never kill a tax.


28 posted on 05/14/2019 7:40:07 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911/June 14, 1946)
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> “... or when ‘facts have so changed, or come to be seen so differently, as to have robbed the old rule of significant application or justification,’” Breyer wrote”

Well Monsieur Le Breyer, there you have it, de soi-meme, the facts like chickens have come home to roost.


30 posted on 05/14/2019 7:42:35 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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