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Ancient DNA Suggests That Some Northern Europeans Got Their Languages From Siberia
Eureka Alert - Cell Press ^ | 5-10-2019

Posted on 05/10/2019 1:03:14 PM PDT by blam

Most Europeans descend from a combination of European hunter-gatherers, Anatolian early farmers, and Steppe herders. But only European speakers of Uralic languages like Estonian and Finnish also have DNA from ancient Siberians. Now, with the help of ancient DNA samples, researchers reporting in Current Biology on May 9 suggest that these languages may have arrived from Siberia by the beginning of the Iron Age, about 2,500 years ago, rather than evolving in Northern Europe.

The findings highlight the way in which a combination of genetic, archaeological, and linguistic data can converge to tell the same story about what happened in particular areas in the distant past.

"Since the transition from Bronze to Iron Age coincides with the diversification and arrival time of Finnic languages in the Eastern Baltic proposed by linguists, it is plausible that the people who brought Siberian ancestry to the region also brought Uralic languages with them," says Lehti Saag of University of Tartu, Estonia.

Although researchers knew that the Uralic-speaking people share common Siberian ancestry, its arrival time in the Eastern Baltic had remained uncertain. To characterize the genetic ancestry of people from the as-yet-unstudied cultural layers, Saag along with Kristiina Tambets and colleagues extracted DNA from the tooth roots of 56 individuals, 33 of which yielded enough DNA to include in the analysis.

"Studying ancient DNA makes it possible to pinpoint the moment in time when the genetic components that we see in modern populations reached the area since, instead of predicting past events based on modern genomes, we are analyzing the DNA of individuals who actually lived in a particular time in the past," Saag explains.

Their data suggest that the Siberian ancestry reached the coasts of the Baltic Sea no later than the mid-first millennium BC--around the time of the diversification of west Uralic/Finnic languages. It also indicates an influx of people from regions with strong Western hunter-gatherer characteristics in the Bronze Age, including many traits we now associate with modern Northern Europeans, like pale skins, blue eyes, and lactose tolerance.

"The Bronze Age individuals from the Eastern Baltic show an increase in hunter-gatherer ancestry compared to Late Neolithic people and also in the frequency of light eyes, hair, and skin and lactose tolerance," Tambets says, noting that those characteristics continue amongst present-day Northern Europeans.

The researchers are now expanding their study to better understand the Iron Age migration processes in Europe. They say they will also "move forward in time and focus on the genetic structure of the medieval time period."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dna; epigraphyandlanguage; estonian; finland; finnish; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; languages; siberia; uralic
The Arrival Of Siberian Ancestry Connecting The Eastern Baltic To Uralic Speakers Further East
1 posted on 05/10/2019 1:03:14 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping


2 posted on 05/10/2019 1:03:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"it is plausible that the people who brought Siberian ancestry to the region also brought Uralic languages with them"

Via that meeting in Trump Tower no doubt.

3 posted on 05/10/2019 1:07:46 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: blam

More likely, as usual, the language and genetic lines come from a central northern eurasian region and moved both east and west from there.


4 posted on 05/10/2019 1:09:42 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: blam

I think it was called Siberian Khatru.


5 posted on 05/10/2019 1:42:02 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: jimtorr

That seems plausible.


6 posted on 05/10/2019 4:57:37 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: blam

Finnish and Estonian which is basically a dialect are along with Hungarian part of the Finno-Ugraic language family. They originated in Siberia near the Urals but are not ethnic Russians. The Hungarian story was that there were 11 tribes. 7 went south and became the Hungarians. 4 went North and became the Finns.

The Hungarians were one of the last major migrant groups in Europe arriving on the Hungarian plain about 1100 years ago. I’d guess the Finns arrived in what is now Finland at about the same time.


7 posted on 05/10/2019 7:33:22 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: P.O.E.
...Warm side, the tower...

8 posted on 05/10/2019 10:32:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks blam!

9 posted on 05/10/2019 10:33:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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KEYWORDS: dna; epigraphyandlanguage; estonian; finnish; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; languages; siberia; uralic;

10 posted on 05/10/2019 10:36:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blam

No wonder I couldn’t understand a word my grandmothers said.


11 posted on 05/11/2019 12:16:33 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: FLT-bird

The Iron Age began about 1200 BC, so add a few years to the 1100.


12 posted on 05/11/2019 5:14:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: FLT-bird
Where Do The Finns Come From?
13 posted on 05/11/2019 11:35:56 AM PDT by blam
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Then in 2016, a true ghost emerged from the genomes of 44 individuals who lived in the Middle East between 14,000 and 3400 years ago. Their DNA held genetic markers indicative of a distinct group of ancient H. sapiens based in the region more than 45,000 years ago. The members of this population are now known as Basal Eurasians, and they present a conundrum. Their DNA, which is still found in modern Europeans, shows none of the telltale signs of interbreeding with Neanderthals. This came as a surprise because ancestral humans mated with Neanderthals very soon after leaving Africa 60,000 years ago in the migration that was to give rise to all people of non-African heritage alive today... the genomes of modern Africans who belong to groups with deep ancestral roots, including the Baka hunter-gatherers from Cameroon, and the Hadza and Sandawe from Tanzania. Within these genomes, they have found stretches of DNA that appear to come from another hominin species. Because this DNA is found only in the descendants of African people - not in any Eurasians - the ghost species must have interbred with H. sapiens after the out-of-Africa migration 60,000 years ago. In fact, by the team's calculations, this probably happened within the past 30,000 years. If true, this is huge. It means that until very recently, there was at least one other species of hominin living alongside us in Africa. According to Akey, soon-to-be published evidence suggests there might have been more than one... It now transpires that Denisovans had their own ghosts. People living in Oceania and East and South-East Asia today have inherited about 5 per cent of their DNA from Denisovans. By taking a closer look at these genetic sequences, Akey's team found that they don't all relate to the original finger-bone genome in the same way. In fact, the group found signs of two evolutionarily distinct Denisovan populations. "That was really unexpected," he says. "There's actually another, ghost, Denisovan lineage."

Traces of mystery ancient humans found lurking in our genomes | October 10, 2018 | Catherine Brahic | New Scientist

14 posted on 05/19/2019 9:47:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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