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I work with H1-B all the time. None of them are "Brainiacs". At best they can take a pr-existing process and put it into production. Very often I have to fix their incompetent work if they are asked to do something original. They are cheap labor.
1 posted on 04/26/2019 6:27:42 AM PDT by C19fan
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Sad. At least most Americans can do the same thing! Our system is broken, probably beyond repair simply because of party politics. America be damned.


2 posted on 04/26/2019 6:30:40 AM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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I get calls all the time from Tech contract houses seeing if I want to work for them for little more than minimum wage.
This is how they get around the law.

No one wants to work as a Contractor for a 80% pay cut so this justifies more H1b.
H1b’s destroyed Intel’s well known quality and delivery.
Executive Staff did it to themselves.


3 posted on 04/26/2019 6:32:56 AM PDT by Zathras
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Agreed.

Maybe when this program was first conceived we were skimming the “braniacs” from other countries. Certainly not the case today.

Some of the ones you speak with are so dim you wonder how they ever managed to qualify in the first place.


4 posted on 04/26/2019 6:33:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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H1B are to skilled workers, what Illegals are to unskilled... They aren’t “Brainiacs, and most are sub par to American Educated... There are NO shortage of native born software engineers, which is what most H1B’s are... they are hired because they are cheaper, and the people that hire them know they basically own them because they sponsor their visa...

ITS A SCAM... and it needs ENDED.


5 posted on 04/26/2019 6:35:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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“the firms that use these visas must affirm that they were not able to find comparably skilled American workers to do the jobs.”

The great lie.

Anyone who perpetuates it is a traitor to the American people. And should be tried and hung by the neck until dead.

No matter their station, office or party.


7 posted on 04/26/2019 6:35:46 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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None of them are "Brainiacs". They are cheap labor.

H1-B's are to IT and other white collar jobs what illegals and migrant workers are to agricultural labor and construction: a convenient way for businesses to lower labor costs so that those jobs become unappealing to Americans - thereby "justifying" more H1-B's and migrant workers. Then those who brought in these workers to cheapen the cost of labor gloat at their self-fulfilling prophecy about "work Americans won't do."

It's good to see Jason Richwine contributing to National Review. NR is mostly garbage these days (Libertarians and neocons like Kevin Williamson, David French, Jonah Goldberg, Rich Lowry), but Richwine has interesting things to say. Several years ago, Richwine was fired by the Heritage Foundation for stating a politically incorrect fact - i.e. that the average IQ among immigrants from Mexico and Central America is in the 80's.

9 posted on 04/26/2019 6:40:20 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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For 14 years, I was the equivalent of an H1-B in Japan. The company was required to pay me AT LEAST a 10% wage premium over the going salary in the industry.

Eventually, I became too much like a local Japanese worker and wasn't worth the premium anymore so they were required to move me back to the USA as part of my separation package.

With the 10% premium rule, they don't have a problem with companies cheating or holding down local wages. In fact, for the most part, I was welcomed because more foreign workers = higher wages = more Japanese getting trained in the same skillset.

10 posted on 04/26/2019 6:44:11 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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Is it really fair to other countries to take away professionals who often received a free education in their homelands? While US citizens are badgered into college plans that put them in impossible debt? And CEOs and other execs rake in reprehensible profits?

It's not sustainable. Invasive species always win out.

12 posted on 04/26/2019 6:44:57 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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Stephen Moore writes that "the firms that use these visas must affirm that they were not able to find comparably skilled American workers to do the jobs." That claim is generally false. Most firms are not even required to advertise the position before applying for an H-1B worker. (Recruiting Americans prior to applying for an H-1B is required only for employers deemed “H-1B dependent” or "willful violators.") Moore’s piece has remained uncorrected on the Dallas News site for six days and counting.

I've taken some grief here from Freepers when I suggest Moore is not a good choice for the Federal Reserve board, but this sort of thing illustrates his flaw perfectly. He's a political advisor first and foremost, which means he has published a number of things over the years that were done for the purpose of political advocacy but do not stand up to factual scrutiny.

I think he's a smart guy but some of the things he's written really rub me the wrong way.

15 posted on 04/26/2019 7:02:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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Most I’ve worked with were complete morons.


18 posted on 04/26/2019 7:07:54 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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Moore co-wrote “Fueling Freedom” (2016). An interesting read.


19 posted on 04/26/2019 7:08:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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These “brainiacs” come from places where huge numbers of people go out into the street to do #2. H1-B is simply a way to get cheap labor. They copypasta code like crazy at the last minute to beat a deadline, and spend their work time online, asking girls to show bobs and vegene.

Even though he’s a complete doofus on this issue, Stephen Moore is still better than most of the Fed.


21 posted on 04/26/2019 7:13:34 AM PDT by cdcdawg (If white, western culture makes you feel out of place, THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT YOUR PLACE!)
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I’m finishing up an MS in Data Science next month. About 3/4 of the class are foreign students (China, Nigeria, and India).

Most have a BS in Computer Science or Engineering from their home countries.

They can’t code their way out of a paper bag. They can’t give a coherent presentation. Their writing is no better than a bag of random words.

Yet, they will all get hired first.

Why? As I am told, the only way they can stay in the county after school is to get a job. They are highly motivated to take a job AT ANY SALARY just to stay in the US.


22 posted on 04/26/2019 7:16:05 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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The best thing that could happen to college grads isn't some tuition forgiveness scheme but ending the H-1b visa program.

This ruinous wage suppression scheme is even starting to affect newly minted Doctors.

Doctors Without Jobs

23 posted on 04/26/2019 7:16:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Companies performing these technical hires trap themselves in the long run. They create job descriptions so specific that they target a single individual to justify their hiring under these constraints. Later, should a viable candidate apply for the same position, the business must, by law, use the exact same criteria to hire, if said suitable candidate does not match the specifics of the prior candidate, they cannot be hired. This is due to legal liability for fair hiring practices. You cannot set the standards for a given position and then on the fly change it, because if a previous candidate was denied the position based on said criteria and someone else is hired after discarding said criteria, the denied applicant then has legal recourse to sue for discriminating practices. It is a huge deal.


24 posted on 04/26/2019 7:24:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Outstanding!

‘H-1B visas are distributed by lottery when the program is oversubscribed, so researchers can isolate the impact of acquiring an H-1B worker by comparing lottery winners with lottery losers. I previously wrote about the results of that study for NR:

‘”If H-1B workers are truly exceptional talents for whom there are few American substitutes, then we would expect to see that lottery-winning companies increase their employment relative to the lottery losers by roughly the number of H-1B workers they receive. (In fact, if the more grandiose claims about immigrant productivity are true, then we would expect the lottery-winning companies to generate even more jobs beyond the ones that go to the H-1Bs.) Instead, both lottery-winning and lottery-losing firms ended up with employment levels that were statistically indistinguishable. Presumably, the losing companies just went ahead and hired someone who was not an H-1B.

‘”Although the evidence is less robust, it also appears that lottery-winning companies lowered median wages and increased their profits relative to the lottery losers. So the lottery data are more consistent with the view that firms use the H-1B program to hire cheaper substitute workers from abroad, not to bring in the next Einstein.

‘[...] In my own work, I’ve found that immigrants with foreign college or advanced degrees have substantially lower levels of English literacy, numeracy, and computer skills compared to people with U.S. degrees.’


26 posted on 04/26/2019 8:50:29 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Absolutely yes. Pretty generally, at first they were rather poor college students with another kind of visa for that, who stayed here after graduation because the didn’t want to go back home because of having become acculturated to the American lifestyle. Seen it over and over in colleges and in corporate life. Fifty years of it has ruined our campuses as well as undermining the economics of why one would want to seek a technical or medical degree.


27 posted on 04/26/2019 9:10:14 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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or are firms simply importing run-of-the-mill college graduates to hold down wages?

In my experience, they are below average "college graduates", that can barely pour water out of a boot if you give them detailed instructions on the heel.

28 posted on 04/26/2019 9:20:37 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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“Moore’s piece has remained uncorrected on the Dallas News site for six days and counting.”

Not sure what “correction” would look like - there are some great comments there, particularly this:

‘While lobbying Congress for more H-1B visas, industry claims H-1B workers are “brainiacs”. Come payday, however, they’re entry-level workers.

‘The wage rules for H-1B and green card sponsorship are broken down into wage Levels I, II, III and IV, with Level III being the median. For software developers, the most common type of foreign worker on H-1B, the green card data show the following percentages of foreign workers at Levels I or II making below-median wages: Amazon 91%; Facebook 91%; and Google 96%. These firms, putatively in the vanguard of advanced technology and certainly in the vanguard in Capitol Hill lobbying regarding H-1B, are paying almost all of their foreign workers - ostensibly, the “best and brightest” - wages below the median for the given region.

‘The Government Accountability Office (GAO) put out a report on the H-1B visa that discusses at some length the fact that the vast majority of H-1B workers are hired at the entry-level wage level. In fact, most are at “Level I”, which is officially defined by the Dept. of Labor as those who have a “basic understanding of duties and perform routine tasks requiring limited judgment”. Moreover, the GAO found that a mere 6% of H-1B workers are at “Level IV”, which is officially defined by the Dept. of Labor as those who are “fully competent”.

‘This all belies the industry lobbyists’ claims that H-1B workers are hired because they’re experts that can’t be found among the U.S. workforce. ‘


29 posted on 04/26/2019 9:29:15 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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This guy is good.

Here’s another timely, related article from him (as Kushner gets ready to role out his plan for increased immigration):

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/cheating-our-way-to-4-percent-growth/


32 posted on 04/26/2019 11:56:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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