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Bill Binney States that the NSA Has 32 Pages of Communications Between Seth Rich and Julian Assange
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Posted on 04/21/2019 1:49:40 AM PDT by TigerClaws

About six months ago, a blogpost by “Publius Tacitus” appeared regarding attorney Ty Clevenger’s FOIA request regarding Seth Rich: “But now there is new information that may corroborate what the human sources quoted in the Fox article claimed about Seth’s role in getting the DNC documents to Wikileaks. Borne from a FOIA request filed in November 2017 by attorney Ty Clevenger, who requested any information regarding Seth Rich and Julian Assange. The NSA informed Clevenger in a letter dated 4 October 2018 that: Your request has been processed under the provisions of the FOIA. Fifteen documents (32 pages) responsive to your request have been reviewed by this Agency as required by the FOIA and have found to be currently and properly classified in accordance with Executive Order 13526. These documents meet the criteria for classification as set forth in Subparagraph © of Section 1.4 and remains classified TOP SECRET and SECRET.

If NSA had come back and said, “No, we do not have anything pertaining to Seth Rich,” that would have been news. It would have been especially unwelcome news for those who believe that Seth was the source on the DNC emails. But now the opposite is true. The NSA says that it has documents that are classified TS and S. What do those documents say or prove? That remains to be seen.”

At the time this appeared, I felt that it was of high significance, but I wasn’t quite sure what it meant. What is meant by “any information regarding Julian Assange and Seth Rich?” Reports generated within the NSA that mention both? Communications in which either mentions the other? Direct communications between the two? What was the actual language of Clevenger’s request?

The final sentence of the blogpost seems to muddy the waters even more: Eighth, the NSA has confirmed that it has Top Secret and Secret documents responsive to a FOIA request for information concerning contact between Seth Rich and other people including Julian Assange. “And other people”?

Although I was somewhat confused by the meaning of this revelation, I commented on its significance. At the very least, it meant that the view that Seth was the source of the Wikileaks DNC releases was more than the brainless and callous conspiracy theory that mainstream media were making it out to be.

Fortunately, Bill Binney, one of the founding fathers of the NSA, and universally acknowledged to be one of the most brilliant people who ever worked for the U.S. government, has offered clarification on this issue in a brief interview with Ed Butowsky he gave two days ago.

In this interview, he offers a devastating rebuke of the fraudulence of the Mueller report’s analysis of “Russian hacking”. But the truly fascinating part occurs at about 6:40, where Binney discusses Clevenger’s FOIA request.

Here’s what Binney says: “Ty Clevenger has FOIAed information from NSA asking for any data that involved both Seth Rich and also Julian Assange.

And they responded by saying we’ve got 15 files, 32 pages, but they’re all classified in accordance with executive order 13526 covering classification, and therefore you can’t have them. That says that NSA has records of communications between Seth Rich and Julian Assange. I mean, that’s the only business that NSA is in — copying communications between people and devices.”

If Binney is interpreting this correctly — and bear in mind that, not only is he extraordinarily bright, but he is sometimes referred to as “the father of the NSA” — this provides strong support for the hypothesis that Seth was indeed Wikileaks’ source for the DNC emails it published. Assange has strongly hinted at this, Sy Hersh claims to have a trusted informant inside the FBI who states that he has seen FBI documents verifying this, and Binney himself says that he has two sources inside the intel community vouching for this.

Go to the 8:30 mark — Binney inadvertently refers to “Seth” when he means “Sy”.) Consistent with the possibility that Seth (or some other DNC employee) leaked the documents, Binney and colleagues have recently demonstrated that the DNC documents passed through a thumbdrive prior to their publication. There would have been no obvious need for such a transfer if Russians had hacked them remotely. Beyond that, as Binney makes clear, the Mueller report’s tale of how Wikileaks received the DNC emails from GRU agents styling themselves as “Guccifer 2.0” is absurd on its face to reasonable people who will examine the pertinent evidence. Mueller’s New Indictment — Do the Feds Take Us for Idiots?!

According to Adam Carter’s G2.0 website, on June 12th, 2016, medium.com

Astute cyberanalysts such as Adam Carter, the Forensicator, and Binney himself have presented compelling evidence that, far from being a Russian hacker masquerading as Romanian, G2.0 has operated in US time zones, down-loaded some of his “hacks” via thumbdrive, purposely implanted “Russian fingerprints” in the meta-data of some of his releases, made amateur attempts to impersonate a Russian using intermittently broken English, and never himself published any documents denigratory to the Clinton campaign. The GRU, if indeed they had hacked the DNC, would have had no need for such a ridiculous figure — but G2.0 functions wonderfully as a vehicle for incriminating Russia as the source of the DNC emails published by Wikileaks, tarring Russia and Assange with the same brush. G2.0’s contact with Wikileaks shortly (too shortly!) before the Wikileaks DNC release was evidently an attempt to produce a false trail that investigators (i.e. Mueller) could point to as G2.0's hand-off of the DNC emails to Wikleaks.

And here’s another intriguing point. Crowdstrike’s co-founder Shawn Henry used to be Mueller’s deputy at the FBI, acting as head of the counterintelligence division. Adam Carter informs me that, while Henry headed that division, it made an attempt to destroy Wikileaks’ reputation by feeding it documents that had been purposely altered; fortunately, Wikileaks exercised its customary caution and refused to take the bait. G2.0 — very likely a creation of Crowdstrike — appears to have been another attempt to smear Wikileaks, one that has worked wonderfully well with much of the American public. Clinton’s incompetence was expiated, Wikileaks was smeared, and the Russia was further defamed, all in one stroke — the Deep State’s wet dream! Assange became, not a journalist working with an American whistleblower disgusted by the gross bias of the DNC against Bernie, but instead a tool of malign Russians intent on meddling in our democracy and saddling us with the ridiculous Trump. And, as to Seth Rich’s mysterious death, ask yourself this: who would have been in a perfect position to destroy the “Russian hacking” narrative that Clinton’s campaign and Crowdstrike had decided to run with?

So let’s push to get the real story out. And, if it turns out that Binney is right, we’ll need to apologize to Russia, and then decide whom to send to prison for the rest of their miserable prevaricating lives.


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To: TigerClaws

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possible seth rich julian assange nsa connection

publius tacitus


41 posted on 04/21/2019 5:20:50 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: TigerClaws; Fedora

Isn’t Bill Binney an associate of VIPS’ Ray McGovern of John Kerry’s 2004 campaign?

I see his trail leads back to EBAY’s Pierre Omidyar [see his Hawaii connections, Obama], through Omidyar’s publication The Intercept [see Reality Winner], and James Risen [see NY Times], Jeffrey Alexander Sterling [convicted of violating the Espionage Act for revealing details about Operation Merlin to James Risen], etc.
[Note : all of whom relate to Iran]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/pierre-omidyar-first-look-media.html


42 posted on 04/21/2019 5:21:08 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Assange fanned the flames even higher on August 25, 2016, when he was asked in a television interview, “Why are you so interested in Seth Rich’s killer?”

“We’re very interested in anything that might be a threat to alleged Wikileaks sources,” Assange answered. “If there’s someone who’s potentially connected to our publication, and that person has been murdered in suspicious circumstances, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the two are connected. But it is a very serious matter .. that type of allegation is very serious, as it’s taken very seriously by us.”

Assange never came out and said it, but his “ statements about Rich implied falsely that he had been the source of the stolen DNC emails,” Mueller notes.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-report-julian-assange-smeared-seth-rich-to-cover-for-russians?ref=scroll


43 posted on 04/21/2019 5:21:47 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Mueller was not interested to interview Assange, Craig Murray, Josef Mifsud, Stefan Halper, etc.


44 posted on 04/21/2019 5:24:35 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: TigerClaws

Mueller has said a number of things in his report that are demonstrably false. The biggest, in my opinion, was his statement that Russia made “numerous” attempts to influence the Trump organization. Yet the ONLY “attempts” that he has listed, that I have heard about, were contacts that were likely made by implanted spies from US spy agencies. Yet nowhere does Mueller even mention that the US spy agencies were doing this at all. This makes his entire report suspect.


45 posted on 04/21/2019 5:27:50 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

The FBI car that was robbed was in New York City.


46 posted on 04/21/2019 5:28:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: TigerClaws

This article is way over my pay grade. I need an executive summary.


47 posted on 04/21/2019 5:30:09 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: All

Even the liberal Nation concludes most likely DNC was an inside job:

A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”

Time stamps in the metadata provide further evidence of what happened on July 5. The stamps recording the download indicate that it occurred in the Eastern Daylight Time Zone at approximately 6:45 pm. This confirms that the person entering the DNC system was working somewhere on the East Coast of the United States. In theory the operation could have been conducted from Bangor or Miami or anywhere in between—but not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone. Combined with Forensicator’s findings on the transfer rate, the time stamps constitute more evidence that the download was conducted locally, since delivery overheads—conversion of data into packets, addressing, sequencing times, error checks, and the like—degrade all data transfers conducted via the Internet, more or less according to the distance involved.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/


48 posted on 04/21/2019 5:31:09 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

What kind of Russian last name is “Rich”?


49 posted on 04/21/2019 5:36:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: piasa

Recommend reading the entire Omidyar article before swallowing everything that seems to affirm your beliefs... a lot of interests and shifting alliances at play here.


50 posted on 04/21/2019 5:43:21 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Exactly. Which is why they are NEVER held to account. The list is just endless, Awan, Kavanaugh, Fast and Furious, etc., etc. They never pay but WE always do.


51 posted on 04/21/2019 5:44:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: pepsionice

Assange will be taken into protective custody in the USA.

Assange knows what happened to seth Richards and fears the same fate

He will be in the position of spilling the beans or released where he will be killed


52 posted on 04/21/2019 5:48:13 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: TigerClaws

“Fifteen documents (32 pages) responsive to your request have been reviewed by this Agency as required by the FOIA and have found to be currently and properly classified in accordance with Executive Order 13526.”
It would be interesting to note the origination of the documents, whether CIA or FBI, or other.
The Senate Committee (bozos), or House Committee (minority) on Intelligence could request these documents.
Finally, the old saw “sources and methods” will be used to hide this information, but the NSA should be reminded it works for America, not against it.


53 posted on 04/21/2019 5:48:37 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: pepsionice

There’s a reason Assange’s happy heinie is still in the UK.

And it’s not cuz what he knows is gonna hurt Trump.


54 posted on 04/21/2019 5:49:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: TigerClaws
Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote.

That may be so

But didn't the Awan brothers down load the DNC files on a daily basis to Pakistan using a fiber optic link?

55 posted on 04/21/2019 5:49:47 AM PDT by spokeshave (If anything, Trump is guilty of attempting to obstruct injustice.)
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To: Jim Noble
No. At least the stories I've heard say "same vicinity". From a quick search Lyons pointed to an “unexplained twist” that may be related to Rich’s case in which “on July 10, 2016, the same day Seth Rich was murdered, an FBI agent’s car was burglarized in the same vicinity. Included in the FBI equipment stolen was a 40 caliber Glock 22. D.C.Metro police issued a press release, declaring that the theft of the FBI agent’s car occurred between 5 and 7 a.m. Two weeks later, the FBI changed the time of the theft to between 12 a.m. and 2 a.m. Was the FBI gun used to shoot Seth Rich? Neither the FBI nor the Metro police will discuss.”
56 posted on 04/21/2019 5:52:35 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
Glock .40 stolen from FBI car in 2001, NYC.
57 posted on 04/21/2019 5:55:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: TigerClaws

Adam Carter is a guy from the UK named Tim Leonard, isn’t he?


58 posted on 04/21/2019 5:58:49 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: hoosiermama

59 posted on 04/21/2019 6:05:19 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: arthurus
Wouldn't it be neat if a prosecution was being put together for the murder of Seth Rich and that Hillary got arrested for it? Imagine how many leftist heads would explode! To make it even better indict her on the 4th of July. Make it a really great celebration!
60 posted on 04/21/2019 6:06:13 AM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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