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The Second Amendment doesn't say that gun ownership has to be free of charge (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 16 apr 2019 | Dahleen Glanton

Posted on 04/16/2019 5:45:09 AM PDT by rellimpank

It’s just a fact of life that handguns are now permanent legal fixtures in the American landscape. We have to live with that.

But the freedom to own a firearm doesn’t mean it has to be free of charge. It doesn’t mean that owners can’t be a tiny bit inconvenienced. And someone’s right to own a gun certainly does not trump the safety rights of the rest of us.

This is what the pro-gun people don’t seem to understand.

Gun rights advocates in Illinois are in an uproar over legislation that is being debated in the General Assembly. The bill simply would make it harder for people who aren’t supposed to have guns to legally obtain them.

The amendment to House Bill 96, sponsored by Rep. Kathleen Willis, is one of several bills introduced in the aftermath of a multiple shooting at a manufacturing warehouse in Aurora in February.

Of course, we don’t know if stricter state laws could have stopped 45-year-old Gary Martin from shooting five co-workers to death, in addition to injuring five police officers, after learning he was to be terminated. But many Illinois residents are demanding that our lawmakers at least give it a try.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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To: rellimpank

And someone’s right to own a gun certainly does not trump the safety rights of the rest of us

Well yes, yes it does.


61 posted on 04/16/2019 8:49:30 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: rellimpank

It would be interesting to know what percentage of people cannot produce a valid photo ID. I think census takers should ask for a photo ID. I would bet the number without would be extremely low. .0001% And it is hardly a burden to get valid ID. Photo ID deters voter fraud.

This writer alone is a good reason to move out of Il.


62 posted on 04/16/2019 8:54:32 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: rellimpank

Yet... abortion is apparently tangentially part of the penumbra of constitutional rights... and a mandatory government expenditure.


63 posted on 04/16/2019 8:59:05 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: ravenwolf

I’m not advocating any charge. Would the same media pundits pushing for this be okay with background checks and annual licensing to post on the internet or publish a text?


64 posted on 04/16/2019 9:09:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: rellimpank
This writer needs to go back and review history. The proposal will not pass SCOTUS precedent:

The power to tax is the power to destroy.

— McCulloch v. Maryland

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65 posted on 04/16/2019 9:20:25 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
How much gun crime in Chicago is committed by black people?

Trick question!

There is no gun crime in Chicago due to the very strict gun laws passed to protect the police officers of Chicago.

How much gun crime in Chicago is committed by black people?

Double Trick Question!

There are no black people in Chicago 'cause the MAGA hat- wearing White Nationalists drove them out!

66 posted on 04/16/2019 9:38:17 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

KEK!
Keep on fightin’, crackah.


67 posted on 04/16/2019 9:40:31 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: rellimpank

Any non market “charge” is an Infringement and therefore unConstitutional as is every law and regulation on anybody’s books. The 13th Amendment might allow the only possible exception in its treatment of “involuntary servitude” which refers to legally incarcerated persons. Otherwise it is every citizen’s or every human’s right to possess and carry a knife or an F-22.


68 posted on 04/16/2019 10:08:20 AM PDT by arthurus (sytt)
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To: rellimpank; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

RKBA Ping List


This Ping List is for all things pertaining to infringes upon or victories for the 2nd Amendment.

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or deleted from the list.

More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

69 posted on 04/16/2019 12:16:31 PM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: rellimpank

“The Second amendment doesn’t say gun ownership has to be free of charge.”

Yes it does, Dahleen. Quote, “shall not be infringed.”

If you want some more education, Dahleen you can contact me at Free Republic.com. I post with my real name.

5.56mm


70 posted on 04/16/2019 12:25:22 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: rellimpank
Of course, we don’t know if stricter state laws could have stopped 45-year-old Gary Martin from shooting five co-workers to death, in addition to injuring five police officers, after learning he was to be terminated

He should have been in NICS. Try fixing existing laws before proposing new ones, dipweed.

71 posted on 04/16/2019 12:31:41 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rellimpank

Which of our rights, besides the 2nd Amendment, do we have to ask permission from the government before we can exercise it?


72 posted on 04/16/2019 12:38:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty, hateful and use racist slurs yet feel morally superior.)
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To: grobdriver

No, they are not stupid. They are insidious.


73 posted on 04/16/2019 12:48:53 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: KC Burke

The editorial approval is always turned down the first time, however the fee must be paid for each attempt to gain approval. You must also gain approval and submit an application for each additional writing implement you wish to use. Since electronic means allows both faster writing, and faster dispersal of produced communications, you must submit for each implement you would have used, at a ten-times fee, which will also automatically be declined the first time; and you must submit to a lengthy background check to determine whether you have annoyed a bureaucrat in the past, committed grammatical errors, or failed in any case failed to use serial commas - related or unrelated to your submissions - including on Twitter. That your Editor, or your high school English teacher disallowed use of serial commas shall not be considered excuse for prior failures. Further, repeated submissions shall be deemed evidence of your unworthiness to receive a permit.


74 posted on 04/16/2019 2:09:10 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: rellimpank
But the freedom to own a firearm doesn’t mean it has to be free of charge. It doesn’t mean that owners can’t be a tiny bit inconvenienced.

Any guesses as to how this person would respond to a proposal to tax abortions?

How about a tax on gay bars and bathhouses, to partially defray the AIDS epidemic?

75 posted on 04/16/2019 2:15:25 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: lepton

Now we are getting somewhere. LOL


76 posted on 04/16/2019 3:19:04 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The problem is that a license or a back ground check is an infringement
because it will deter some honest people from going so far to own a fire arm
and it will make no difference at all to the criminal element as they will
still have theirs regardless of a law.
S
Same as always, laws that penalize the
Law abiding but does nothing else


77 posted on 04/16/2019 7:50:23 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Small towns are great, if you forget what you were doing don't worry every one else knows.)
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To: ravenwolf

I wasn’t advocating at any time licensing gun owners or press printers.

I was merely turning their argument to one of their own (pretended) sacred cows (journalism).

They actually are quite willing to lock the public out of the journalism game too. Fakebook wanted everyone’s “real” name. The press demands it. Legislators in Europe are demanding it.

They want a monopoly on the printed word and any ability to counter their claims.

I don’t see licensing free press as any protection of free press.


78 posted on 04/17/2019 3:39:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: rellimpank

BUT 2A says “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”


79 posted on 04/17/2019 6:39:27 AM PDT by Cheerio ( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
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To: a fool in paradise

Ok, I was a little dense which is getting customary for me ha,ha
I agree with what you said.


80 posted on 04/17/2019 8:24:05 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Small towns are great, if you forget what you were d oing don't worry every one else knows.)
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