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Republican state senator criticized for comments on slavery
Associated Press ^ | 10 Apr 2019 | Sarah Zimmerman

Posted on 04/10/2019 1:54:52 AM PDT by blueplum

SALEM, Ore. (AP) — A Republican state senator from Oregon said on Tuesday that the designation of slaves as three-fifths of a person was not racist, drawing condemnation from at least two black lawmakers. Sen. Dennis Linthicum, from Klamath Falls in southern Oregon, said during floor debate that the intent of the Three-Fifths Compromise, which classified a slave as three-fifths of a person in the U.S. Constitution, was a way to prevent slave states from gaining too much power in Congress. "The three-fifths vote was actually to eliminate the overwhelming influence the slave states would have in representative government," he said, adding that the move wasn't because the founders thought "three-fifths was an appropriate measure of a man."...

...At least two black senators personally confronted Linthicum following the hearing. Democrat Sen. James Manning, of Eugene, told reporters that Linthicum provided an "offensive mischaracterization" of events, and that his comments were an example of people trying to rewrite history....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: census; constitution; representation; slavery; threefifths; urbanmyths; ushistory
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seems to me he stated it pretty verbatim. Except he left out the calculating population for taxation purposes part.
1 posted on 04/10/2019 1:54:52 AM PDT by blueplum
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...At least two black senators personally confronted Linthicum following the hearing.

They must have been black Democrats because black Republicans aren't ignorant.

2 posted on 04/10/2019 2:01:17 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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So, stating the historical truth is now considered "racist"?

Perhaps that has been the case for a long time?

3 posted on 04/10/2019 2:02:33 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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He better not apologize for telling the truth.


4 posted on 04/10/2019 2:08:55 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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As I recall, 3/5 did not pertain to free blacks. Then there is that pesky thing about land ownership which disenfranchised half the whites.


5 posted on 04/10/2019 2:12:27 AM PDT by fso301
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It’s not mutually exclusive, it did have taxation root issues and was also racist....


6 posted on 04/10/2019 2:17:21 AM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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Wow. One may quibble over the nuances and niceties of what the Founders were precisely doing, but this guy’s comments are basic historic truth. Not racist. The opposite of racist. The people who confronted him should be publicly shamed.


7 posted on 04/10/2019 2:19:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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had better stop creating controversy for liberal media attention.


8 posted on 04/10/2019 2:20:44 AM PDT by granada
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Funny how they accuse the guy of trying to rewrite history.


9 posted on 04/10/2019 2:26:10 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Rats motto: Lie. Cheat. Steal. Murder.


10 posted on 04/10/2019 2:29:12 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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Do not speak the truth on slavery we are working on reparations


11 posted on 04/10/2019 2:34:23 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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Republicans are good at stating things that are technically correct but will only be understood by about 5% of the population. The race baiters ask a loaded question that has an obscure technicality in it. The Republicans’ way of connecting with people is to impress them with their knowledge, so they begin to speak, Mr. Spock-like, in detail about the obscure, easily misunderstood technicality. The Democrats and the media then scream racist, racist, racist! The Republicans just never see the trap.


12 posted on 04/10/2019 2:40:58 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Not counting slaves as full people was entirely the North’s idea.


13 posted on 04/10/2019 2:45:58 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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The three-fifths provision as to apportionment of US House seats was meant as a way to limit the political power of the slave states and was based on slave status, not race. Free Blacks were counted in full for purposes of apportionment. I doubt that slaves at the time knew or cared much about the provision.

Yet as a Northern delegate in the Constitutional Convention noted, the logic of the three-fifths rule implicitly contradicted the principle of equality that was elsewhere applied even as to slaves. It is that broader sense of Black slaves being treated in any respect in the Constitution as of less consequence and value than free persons that animates the current controversy. I suggest though that such a focus misses the greater point: that the Constitutional Convention failed to end slavery or at least put it on a swift path to extinction.

I know that there were compelling practical reasons why that was not attempted, but there are still times when I wish that I could reach back through time and collectively grab the delegates by the lapels and shout at them: "You fools! Free the slaves! End slavery! Apply the principles of the Declaration!"

Yet we are stuck with history as it is and cannot revise it to suit ourselves. The greater lesson is to always keep our country's fundamental principles in mind and not to infringe or forget them. And who would argue against that?

14 posted on 04/10/2019 3:16:28 AM PDT by Rockingham
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Well of course it was racist. That was the whole point. Slave owners voted personally for every slave they owned. This allowed slave owners to dominate any election. Only by limiting their electorate power was some equanimity achieved.


15 posted on 04/10/2019 3:20:00 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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” the Constitutional Convention failed to end slavery or at least put it on a swift path to extinction.”

How many slave states would have ratified such a constitution?

16 posted on 04/10/2019 3:36:50 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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A Republican state senator in OR? Is that a typo?


17 posted on 04/10/2019 3:48:03 AM PDT by Robwin (very)
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To: Trump20162020

And a very good idea too.

Unless, of course, one fully approves of and endorses slavery.


18 posted on 04/10/2019 3:52:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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the non-slave states didn’t want to count slaves at all, thus relegating them to non-persons altogether.


19 posted on 04/10/2019 4:18:24 AM PDT by euram
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To: blueplum

What does Coonman think of this?


20 posted on 04/10/2019 4:25:11 AM PDT by fruser1
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