Posted on 03/30/2019 5:35:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz
The scene looks like something from a middle-of-the-night drug raid. Guns drawn, police officers in tactical vests surround a beige ranch house in a subdivision. With a single decisive kick, one busts down the door. “Come out with your hands up!” an officer yells, as a flashlight’s blinding beams begin sweeping the room.
But police in Chandler, Ariz., weren’t seeking out a trove of illegal narcotics when they showed up at the modest home in the Phoenix suburbs on Feb. 25. Instead, they were searching for a 2-year-old who had come down with a dangerously high fever. The boy’s mother, Sarah Beck, had allegedly ignored doctors’ orders and refused to take him to the emergency room, fearing that she would get in trouble because he wasn’t vaccinated. When officials showed up to do a welfare check hours later, the child’s father refused to let them in, saying that everything was fine and the fever had passed. Eventually, police decided to take matters into their own hands.
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See, this is the problem. Our Law Enforcement has been so militarized that they are at war with the citizenry. Flash-bangs, automatic weapons, tactical vests, armored personnel carriers... all this stuff lends to the concept of fighting our own citizens.
It's got to change. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Somehow this doesn't sound exactly like a no-knock raid:
When officials showed up to do a welfare check hours later, the child’s father refused to let them in
Long thread on this last night:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3738512/posts
Lots of high emotion.
Conservatives seem to fall into two camps:
1) Parents should be free to make their own health choices for their families
2) Government should mandate vaccines for all, and if it takes police raids to enforce that, then so be it. The health of my family may depend on you losing the freedom to raise your family as you see fit, and that’s just too bad for you.
I agree with you, 100%.
BUT, the real question for you is, "Would you hit it"?
In my view, if the doctors thought it was a life threatning situation, she should have put aside her fears and bring him in.
Still, the fact that someone from the medical community can call the police and next thing you know you and your family are treated like El Chappo, is a mighty disturbing thing.
As an aside, this is the type of thing that the so-called ‘Red Flag’ laws will result in.
If this is true then this was uncalled for.
Why would the first doctor actually call the emergency room to see if the baby showed up? Because his take on the mother and how sick the baby was is that the baby was not in good hands and was in Danger. Let’s give the first doctor some credit for making a read that the mother was more concerned with not paying for the emergency room visit and that’s why she didn’t take the baby there and then she was capable of lying about how the baby was actually doing later on. I hate the thought of the government getting involved in people’s lives but I’m guessing this doctor felt that baby’s life was actually in danger and in that case it is okay for them to get involved If the parents are not equipped to care for the kids.
Vaccinations contribute to “the immunity of the herd”, the herd being us and our children. Anti-vaxxer’s make a lot of fallacious arguments over why vaccines cause more harm than good. I grew up during the polio epidemics in the 1950’s and thought that anything that would keep me out of an iron lung was a good thing.
All that being said, there is no situation that can’t be made worse or more dangerous than by getting today’s overbearing SWATcops involved. I place a lot of the blame the stupid naturopath that the stupid mother took her kid to in the first place.
Well, the readers at the WP are 100% behind the police, forced vax, taking all the children away. I didn’t know there were so many totalitarians hwre.
Okay you filthy anti-vaxxer, but when you get sick you’ll sing a different tune. Health above Freedom!
Someday soon guns will become a health issue.. Are you up for that.?
I can see the need for this in some cases - Typhoid Mary and other situations where a person killed others by spreading disease. If the state thought this case was important than I agree with their actions.
We got so many foreignors in and about many of our cities these days spreading all kinds of stuff. At this point the cities and states need to be overly cautious (because our govts are not stopping the invasion) and protect citizens so to limit outbreaks and spread of disease.
I don’t care if she thinks her kid is getting better she should yeild to a step or two further to make sure.
Yes her child is her child but she’s choosing to live in a city, in a state, in community with others and THEIR wellbeing counts too.
BUT, the real question for you is, “Would you hit it”?
Any man with a pulse would and should put it to anyone of the opposite sex who also has a pulse(no matter how faint).
It is our duty as men to follow the Bible...”go ye forth and multiply”
Townsend said...”The situation might have ended differently if the parents had opened their door and talked to police, she acknowledged.”
Nope. The police were there to take the child, period.
Well...you might’ve saved the door.
1) Parents should be free to make their own health choices for their families 2) Government should mandate vaccines for all, and if it takes police raids to enforce that, then so be it. The health of my family may depend on you losing the freedom to raise your family as you see fit, and that’s just too bad for you.
In that were all there was, it would not be too bad.
The complicating factor is how badly tort law has been mangled.
Doctors have every incentive to move every incident into one dangerous enough to warrant a swat raid.
They risk nothing with a swat raid.
But if a child is hurt or dies, everything they have is at risk.
Risk and responsibility have been severed with out mangled tort system.
I agree. If the doctor felt that child’s life was in danger, then the parents’ rights are secondary to saving the child’s life.
The police were there for a wellness check since the mother refused to answer her phone when the doctor called later that night.
You defy the infinite power of your gov? They will not allow it. They have no limit to their power. They escalate.
So when they illegally break in and mom is holding a shiny object the robocops kill her. This is the unavoidable result of government action to put down anyone who won’t vaccinate.
Coming to a neighborhood near you.
or the doctor had a tremendous ego and was mad she did not do what he said.
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