A mom refused to take her ... toddler to the hospital ... Armed police officers tore down the door.

WashingCIA Post ^ | March 29, 2019 at 6:22 AM | By Antonia Noori Farzan

[Lazamataz]

The scene looks like something from a middle-of-the-night drug raid. Guns drawn, police officers in tactical vests surround a beige ranch house in a subdivision. With a single decisive kick, one busts down the door. “Come out with your hands up!” an officer yells, as a flashlight’s blinding beams begin sweeping the room.

But police in Chandler, Ariz., weren’t seeking out a trove of illegal narcotics when they showed up at the modest home in the Phoenix suburbs on Feb. 25. Instead, they were searching for a 2-year-old who had come down with a dangerously high fever. The boy’s mother, Sarah Beck, had allegedly ignored doctors’ orders and refused to take him to the emergency room, fearing that she would get in trouble because he wasn’t vaccinated. When officials showed up to do a welfare check hours later, the child’s father refused to let them in, saying that everything was fine and the fever had passed. Eventually, police decided to take matters into their own hands.

[Notthereyet]

I really, really hate siding with the authorities on this one....
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Then don’t. It’s called precedent, and this action will multiply beyond anything you may deem reasonable.
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Ah, that’s the difference between us and them, disclaimer. At least, that is the difference I hope is between you and I and them: For us, we must be honest in our beliefs, though it may pain us. For them, dishonesty is nothing to worry about.

If I cannot be truthful in all aspects, I may as well be lying in all aspects.

So, it is with distaste I grant in this case there was cause for concern for the child.

Sigh. Don’t like it; don’t have to like it.

I just/must be faithful in my objectivity.

[humblegunner]

Twice on the pipe (tink tink) means he ain't gonna show.

You just HAD to bring Jussie into this didn't you.

SO typical.

[USS Alaska]

No, the real question is: Are you still in the 8th grade?

Mama, you southern belles are awful prudish. If Laz doesn't get axed that question he gets crankier than you.

As I remember it, my eighth grade was a very good year. The birds and the bees were singing and making honey, the Five Satins were chirping, 'In the Still of the Night' and I found my first love.

Don't knock the eighth grade.

[disclaimer]

Google Medical Misdiagnosis Statistics regarding the fallibility of doctors.

A preponderance of the evidence can take away parental rights, but a single diagnostic intervention, where it's more of an opinion than factual, is not.

This was not a legitimate use of force - if innocents were killed in this encounter, that would have been more clear to see.

You will live in the political world you and other like minded minions are building, where the standard for armed home invasion is set so low. You won't understand until the day your door is broken down, and your dogs cats are shot. Or, a flash/bang grenade is tossed in your baby's crib, but I digress, since your family consists of pet cats.

[disclaimer]

you must have nothing better to do

[GailA]

Nanny government interfering with parents. Having raised 3 boys, first thing I do is Tylenol and a tepid bath. If fever doesn't go down at all then you start thinking ER after you repeat the Tylenol and a cooler bath. Then consider a ER.

Fevers go with many vaccines. So do some very bad reactions, which is why we have Anti-Vaxers, their child or a friend's child has been serious damaged by a vaccine. It makes you leary of getting them for your child. Considering the FDA'S BAD track record of Bad drugs many don't trust what is approved by them.

It's the Parental choice to vaccinate or not. Not the Government's. This is Communism being forced on us. We are the only country in the world to require 36 vaccines. NOW MMR we are told needs to be repeated every 10 yrs not the LIFE TIME PROTECTION we were told it was. The fist shot if for Hep b just before they release the mother after giving birth. Babies that young have had NO CHANCE TO DEVELOP A IMMUNE SYSTEM. 6 SHOTS IN 1 IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE. EVEN the MMR is risky and over whelms a child system.

My Niece took her 104 degree feverish 5 month old to their rural ER, they said all she had was a earache from early teething. Grandma, my Sis said you take her to a Knoxville hospital, good thing she was taken there, that simple teething earache fever turned into a 1 month Nightmare of Spinal Meningitis not knowing from day to day if the baby would live. Then her older brother has Duchenes MD early onset and the IDIOT Neurologist won't certify Gene Positive so he can be referred to a Pediatric Neurologist for early treatment. That lets him get DSSI, Medicare/Tenn-care, Disability Act protections and the new Trump Right to Try. Because they are under Tenn-care referrals are needed you just can't pick a doc and go there. Their mom has Lyme's, Lupus, Kidney, Liver, and Lung damage, she on Oxygen and she's not quite 30. Falls and gets concussions. She can't get the PCP to send her for a MRI for Post Concussion Syndrome. IDIOT dr took her off the Oxygen to do a stupid Sleep study, now she having fainting spells, Low Ox score and they've still not put her back on Oxygen, but cancelled the sleep study because of the concussion issues they've NOT done a MRI for.

So they are picking on a child they know is not vaccinated. Schools have that on record. We would not be seeing a resurgence of these childhood diseases if we had that WALL and SCREENED ever one who we allow across. That goes the same for Visa holders. You once had to have a full medical to get into the USA via Ellis Island.

[publana]

You are correct in your assumption that I am never a “blast” at parties. I prefer to wake up at home as opposed to jail or other unknown locations the next day with full faculties intact and without the worry of future repercussions due to poor choices I may have made while being a “blast”. To each his own I suppose.

[lastchance]

I meant not vaccinated in general not specifically against meningitis. I should have been clearer.

[lastchance]

The fever had broken after seeing the doctor and the only reason the doctor thought it might be life threatening is because the baby was also lethargic. The article does not read how long the fever remained high. But I’ll assume since the parents did seek medical care when the child was ill if the fever had not broken quickly they would have gone to the hospital.

Now again, if the doctor felt the baby was in need of immediate medical attention at a facility able to provide testing and treatment she could not she should have called for an ambulance. She didn’t. So just how life threatening did she really believe the symptoms were?

[morphing libertarian]

I think you read 1p84 one two many times ace. Hope you don’t need medical care when you’re home alone, we wouldn’t want to violate your rights to save your life.

[disclaimer]

I think you read 1p84 one two many times ace. Hope you don’t need medical care when you’re home alone, we wouldn’t want to violate your rights to save your life.

You fully deserve to live your life as who you are, although if a judge had issued that as a sentence, it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

[leaning conservative]

Actually we are homebodies & are happy not to be listed in the weekly crime report. Just so you know, there are good people in every profession & then there are the duds that ruin it for the good ones.

[FenwickBabbitt]

“Either way, it is caused by lack of vaccinations.”

Actually lots of communicable diseases are caused by very poor sanitary conditions, which aren’t that common among Americans, but are still very common in the third and developing worlds. I’d rather keep out the unchecked millions of illegals and their third-world diseases than having the government dictate how parents raise their children.

(Although, I really think the best solution would be for the government to prohibit mercury, aluminum, and chemical neurotoxins from any vaccine. A lot of anti-vaxer arguments would disappear with that simple, but more expensive, change. Add to that an alternative, more spaced-out vax schedule for children whose parents are afraid of their immune systems being overwhelmed, and the anti-vaxing ranks would dwindle.)

[MichaelCorleone]

Hate to tell you but you’re using faulty logic here.

Clearly you are projecting and drawing conclusions based on assumptions that may or may not be true.

Or is it that you are first drawing a conclusion, and retrofitting your assumptions to ‘prove’ your conclusion?

[lastchance]

My logic is fine. I made no assumptions. The mother had sought medical care when the child was ill. The child’s fever had broken after being seen by the doctor. So we know
A. The mom was not adverse to seeking medical care.
B. The child got better.

I conclude that if the child had remained ill for a good while after seeing the doctor the mother would have gone to the ER. That she didn’t shows me that the child recovered somewhat quickly. Which toddlers do. And again why didn’t the doctor call for an ambulance if she believed the child could very well have a life threatening illness?

[GodAndCountryFirst]

It’s pretty obvious what should have happened here. Biblical Law gives the male head of household complete and unrestricted sovereignty over what happens with the confines of his home. When the father told the cops to buzz off, that should have been the end of it.

Whether the child was in danger (and what to do if that was the case) was something the father was empowered to determine. Nobody is empowered to overrule the father on matters like this.

[MichaelCorleone]

May I suggest to you take at least an introductory in logic at a college, if you’re able to matriculate, that is.

Upon successful completion I suggest you also take a “Critical Thinking” class at the 200 level to learn key cognitive skills.

It will take some honest work to eventually become proficient, but I know you can do it.

Good luck!

[lastchance]

Thanks for your kind suggestion. I shall certainly take it under advisement. I hope your week forward is a pleasant one.