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A mom refused to take her ... toddler to the hospital ... Armed police officers tore down the door.
WashingCIA Post ^ | March 29, 2019 at 6:22 AM | By Antonia Noori Farzan

Posted on 03/30/2019 5:35:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz

The scene looks like something from a middle-of-the-night drug raid. Guns drawn, police officers in tactical vests surround a beige ranch house in a subdivision. With a single decisive kick, one busts down the door. “Come out with your hands up!” an officer yells, as a flashlight’s blinding beams begin sweeping the room.

But police in Chandler, Ariz., weren’t seeking out a trove of illegal narcotics when they showed up at the modest home in the Phoenix suburbs on Feb. 25. Instead, they were searching for a 2-year-old who had come down with a dangerously high fever. The boy’s mother, Sarah Beck, had allegedly ignored doctors’ orders and refused to take him to the emergency room, fearing that she would get in trouble because he wasn’t vaccinated. When officials showed up to do a welfare check hours later, the child’s father refused to let them in, saying that everything was fine and the fever had passed. Eventually, police decided to take matters into their own hands.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: cps; disease; donutwatch; swat
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To: morphing libertarian
no one was dying. There was not clear and present danger. You trust doctors entirely too much - there are scores of misdiagnosis taking place daily.

You don't understand what are rights are, and because of your ignorance, you invite barbarian lethal force into the family home for the children.

There are bad parents, lots of them. That doesn't take away our parental rights. Just like there are lots of outlaws using guns, that doesn't take away our right to possess guns and defend ourselves.

Take you do gooder statist ways to some liberal board.

121 posted on 03/30/2019 9:49:15 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: JustaCowgirl

Remember the mother only decided not to take the child to the ER when the fever had broken and the child was active. So critically ill did not arise.

Now here is another consideration. Why didn’t the doctor call for an ambulance if she believed the child could have an extremely serious communicable disease? She certainly would have been justified in doing so if meningitis was feared. How worried could she have been if did not take steps to make 100% sure the child was examined by an ER doc and tests run?


122 posted on 03/30/2019 9:53:32 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: ozarkgirl

Yes.


123 posted on 03/30/2019 9:54:27 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: humblegunner

Sorry for you that you can’t understand that your point is irrelevant, not applicable, or pertinent, to the discussion.


124 posted on 03/30/2019 10:04:05 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: MichaelCorleone
In my view, if the doctors thought it was a life threatning situation, she should have put aside her fears and bring him in.

In my view if the fever breaks then the doctor is (as was the case here) totally wrong.

Kids get high fevers fast and they can pass just as fast. The child that you were sure was at death's door is whining at you on the ride to the ER because you passed a McDonald's and did not stop for ice cream. They are SOOOOO hungry.

In the end you have spent hours at the ER, paid out enough money that you had to dip into savings and the doctor told you to go home and give her a baby aspirin.

125 posted on 03/30/2019 10:09:40 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (If you are going to be baked by a witch you might as well go out with a mouth full of gingerbread!)
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To: disclaimer

I see.
You like pretending that this was a no-knock raid because that
makes it sound really awful. Even though it isn’t true at all.

Playing pretend is fun for kids, please enjoy yourself.


126 posted on 03/30/2019 10:29:01 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Lazamataz

It’s called a warrant. Go get one, flatfoot.

L


127 posted on 03/30/2019 10:29:18 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending it is.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You are conflating the doctors experience in anY with exposure that hadn’t existed before the invasion from down south.

Either way, it is caused by lack of vaccinations.

128 posted on 03/30/2019 10:55:14 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: Lurker
It’s called a warrant. Go get one, flatfoot.

'Zactly.... and I don't think it would be a hard convince to get a judge to sign off on a possible Child Endangerment crime.

129 posted on 03/30/2019 11:06:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (McCain's passing ended up being + 2 net Republican Senators. Him, and Lindsey Graham.)
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To: humblegunner

Three knocks is pretty close to no-knocks.

Better he should have done twenty-seven knocks.


130 posted on 03/30/2019 11:07:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (McCain's passing ended up being + 2 net Republican Senators. Him, and Lindsey Graham.)
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To: Lazamataz
Three knocks is pretty close to no-knocks.

But not quite the same.

131 posted on 03/30/2019 11:16:36 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Lazamataz

Well, see, the police state did knock.

However, everything from after seeing the doctor is 100% wrong.

The doctor violated HIPAA laws, and I would sue the hospital and the doctor personally for everything they’ve got.

I’d sue the DCS, and police as well for violating my rights under the US Constitution.

When I was a child, I ran 104F fever all the time - I got tonsillitis several times a year, and actually grew to enjoy the ice baths.

Maybe that’s why I so prefer the cold now that I’m almost 50. Who knows.


132 posted on 03/30/2019 11:17:55 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: disclaimer

you ignore the facts being a really bad parent CAN takeaway your right sit happens all the time a skids are removed. Your entire opinion os based on on inaccuracy or lies.

A for the medical opinion you stated show your license Dr.

Police knocking down a door is not barbaric it is often necessary. You let the examples of abuse posted her cloud your head and judgment about the legitimate use of force by cops who save lives every day.

Let’s go another round if you aren’t repetitious. Or just go away i don’t need your apology.


133 posted on 03/30/2019 11:21:21 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“In my view if the fever breaks then the doctor is (as was the case here) totally wrong.

Sure - IF.

Problem is that at that particular time, the fever had not broken and the doctor’s opinion was that it was life threatening.

How could anyone have known the whether or not the fever would have subsided, or even worsened to above 105?


134 posted on 03/30/2019 11:21:34 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: lastchance
I read the child was not vaccinated.

I doubt many doctors would want to have a two year old vaccinated with the meningitis vaccine that should be administered at about 11-12 years old.

135 posted on 03/30/2019 11:23:38 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: MichaelCorleone
She stopped, bought a thermometer and checked. Probably because he felt cooler.

The fever had dropped.

So it had broken. As his temperature dropped so did the reason for taking him to the ER.

I did continue on but I was new at that kind of stuff. A month later I would not have gone on but would have gotten her the ice cream and taken her home, tucked her in bed and got four hours of sleep before work.

Live and learn.

136 posted on 03/30/2019 11:30:18 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (If you are going to be baked by a witch you might as well go out with a mouth full of gingerbread!)
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To: disclaimer
But if the toddler was taken to the ER unnecessarily, what are the likely consequences

Likely a 4 figure ER bill and a lecture on using the ER for non emergent care.

137 posted on 03/30/2019 11:31:05 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: kaila

b/c i did not feel like getting one, and it’s my choice, not hers.


138 posted on 03/30/2019 11:45:33 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: eastexsteve

“Either way, it is caused by lack of vaccinations.

Pretty sure it is caused by germs...


139 posted on 03/30/2019 11:47:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: humblegunner
"Three knocks is pretty close to no-knocks."

But not quite the same.

He should have knocked three times on the ceiling if he wanted her.

Twice on the pipes, if the answer is no.

Oh my sweetness.

(tink tink tink) Means he'll meet her in the hallway.

Twice on the pipe (tink tink) means he ain't gonna show.

140 posted on 03/30/2019 11:50:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (McCain's passing ended up being + 2 net Republican Senators. Him, and Lindsey Graham.)
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