Posted on 02/28/2019 10:05:50 AM PST by bitt
The raging debate over late-term abortion, sparked by new laws in New York and Virginia that sought to guarantee abortion rights should Roe v. Wade be overturned, has pushed more Americans into the pro-life camp, according to a new poll.
Barbara Carvalho, who directed the new Marist poll commissioned by the Knights of Columbus, a pro-life Catholic organization, said the numbers showed a dramatic shift in attitudes about abortion policy.
Current proposals that promote late-term abortion have reset the landscape and language on abortion in a pronounced and very measurable way, Carvalho said in a statement on the Knights website.
The survey showed that Americans were now as likely to identify as pro-life as they were pro-choice, with both at 47 percent.
Last month, a Marist survey on abortion found that Americans were more likely to identify as pro-choice than pro-life by a margin of 55 to 38 percent.
The recent legal changes to late-term abortion and the debate which followed have not gone unnoticed by the general public, Carvalho said.
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Just a couple of points:
1. I think people here are placing too much hope in a poll. Leftists don’t care about polls unless those polls support their position. If the polls don’t support their position, they ignore them and redouble their efforts at re-education of us deplorables.
2. I also think some people lose sight of the innocent human being at the heart of abortion. However they come into existence, they don’t deserve to be murdered.
Well, you know, when you have one side saying that it is just fine to kill not only a fetus up until birth, but even AFTER birth (which, strange as it may seem, I thought was called “infanticide”), vs. the other side that says that at the least we should protect any fetus that is old enough to survive outside of the womb, it is little wonder that the Moloch-worshippers are coming out on the short end of this stick.
There are a lot of people who may not have fallen into the anti-abortion (pro-life) sphere simply because they don’t believe that a single ovum when fertilized becomes a human being.
They may believe an ovum becomes a human at four weeks, eight weeks, or whatever. This uncertainty invites people to rationalize it.
But most living, breathing people understand that an infant, coming down the birth canal, and especially those infants making out into the light of day and breathing air, is indeed a living, breathing human being with inalienable rights and is the most vulnerable among us.
To many of these people who look along that continum from conception to birth, who believe that at some point along that line it DOES become a human, watching the victory dance being performed by the Left upon allowing a birthed infant to be slaughtered in the most inhumane way as it lay on the table is so offputting and jarring that they had to look at the Leftists performing high-fives while maintaining “it is for the health of the mother” and wonder what in God’s name they were doing aligning with those people.
That is my opinion, and I hope it is true. I believe the pendulum has swung as far in that direction as it can go, because if those people do believe that infant, taking its first breaths, feeling cold, pain, etc. IS a fully formed human being, then it HAS to make them understand that “Infanticide” is really “Homicide” is really “Murder”, and they cannot abide it.
I hope.
See my post above. I hope to God that is the far swing of the pendulum on this, and we see it go back the other way as you state.
I don’t think the pendulum can go any further, but...it is the left. If they decide certain fully birthed humans are a burden or undesirable, then I don’t put it past them to attempt it.
Look at what the totalitarian governments the far Left adores has done over the years. They didn’t have a problem murdering people they disagreed with by the hundreds of millions. What makes us think the Totalitarian wanna-be’s in this country or elswhere in the West who admire those murderers wouldn’t do the same thing?
I think it is irresponsible and suicidal to assume they won’t, because they most certainly will.
The same people who admire Mao, Stalin, Castro, and Chavez already have this in their DNA. And there are plenty of them.
Look at what hurts you and it will stop. God bless President Trump.
I have long felt that way.
I admit I thought much the same about the military (That being a Leftist and being in the US military were mutually exclusive) since I never knew any in my experience who were Leftists, but boy, have I been disabused of that line of thought.
I’ve been thinking the same thing, and using the same word - ‘endorse.’
IF you are a democrat you are endorsing the brutal murder of children. Period. If you’re a democrat in NY or VA, you may have personally voted for representatives that enabled this unimaginable evil to have been signed into law. If you’re a democrat anywhere in the United States, you may have personally voted for a US Senator that said NO to stopping this atrocity. Human beings, innocent babies, will be murdered because of your party.
There’s no rationalization possible. You cannot say that you agree with all the rest of the DNC agenda, except this. It’s like being a Russian in the 1930’s saying, “Yeah, I’m a Communist but I’m not in favor of the Great Purge.” Or a similar analogy to Nazi’s and the Holocaust.
Even with my imperfection and failings, as a Christian I cannot reconcile the notion that a fellow Christian would remain a Democrat following the NY & VA laws, and the action of the democrats in the US Senate (effectively a national party statement of endorsing infanticide). It calls into question if they understand or appreciate this sick level of evil. It calls into question if they are a rational person.
Once the Democrats start talking about killing babies after they are born, the “moderates” finally figured out this wasn’t about “women’s health”.
I agree 100 percent!
Breyer + Sotomayor + Kagan + Ginsburg the immortal + Roberts = no it won't.
Great post. I have mentioned this before and I fear that I may be right about the motivation behind the push for greater leniency in laws governing late term abortions. Why would a woman want to endure 9 months of pregnancy only to abort the child at or near the end of 9 months? I fear that there is a plan to provide a monetary award for women who want to give up their babies (or carry them with that end in mind) in order to be paid handsomely for the baby’s body parts. There is a growing market for developed baby organs and blood. It is horrifying to consider, but I believe that if we follow the money, it is supporting at least a portion of this push for infanticide. A baby that survives an abortion and is given support to live will not produce the profit that one who is allowed to die will provide.
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