Posted on 02/24/2019 9:32:41 AM PST by dvan
Hmmm..so much to say here.
Well,to cite a work of fiction:
There was an episode of MASH in which a patient confessed to Father Mulcahey a particular serious sin (can't recall the exact sin).Father Mulcahey said something like "well,restitution is certainly in order here" and the patient said something like "no,I can't do that Father".His response was "well,I certainly cannot grant you absolution given what you've just said".
IMO this isn't an effort to bring about justice.You know as well as I do that if this passes the next law will require priests to turn in those who confess to tax fraud,violations of gun laws and belief that homosexuality is abnormal as well as sinful.
This is an attack on the Catholic Church and has nothing to do with "justice".
And we all know that there's no way that a Rat politician would ever want a lawyer to be required to make such a report...and priests,as imperfect as some of them are (almost as imperfect as me) are far better men than the typical lawyer. Well,most priests at least.
by post was meant as sarcasm My conclusion is they consider child molestation worse than murder or is the the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent?
Chances are pretty good that it’s the priest doing the abusing.
Note to Jerry Hill: Try enforcing it, asshole.
I will have to think about that.
What you describe may be the actual motivation.
Unfortunate that no ‘middle ground’ seems to be one of the choices.
This could be a diversion of attention from the fact that the CA Assembly and Senate still haven’t cleaned up their own sex assault mess. Perverts trying to criminalize their natural enemy.
How about a bill prosecuting Planned Parenthood when they perform abortions on underage girls?
That is apparently already dead as President Trump found out.
These arrogant perverts calling themselves “democrats are promoting in your face government through the use of legislating political correctness aimed at the destruction of our constitutional system. They should be called for what they are arrogant perverts promoting a socialist political system
You deserve to have your mouth washed out with soap for having used the term "middle ground" when speaking of today's Rat Party.
“It’s a short step from this to outlawing the Catholic faith entirely. Some people seem to be comfortable with that idea.”
Is “the Catholic faith” about protecting criminals?
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”
You’re saying criminals are immune to the law because they tell someone in secret they committed a crime?
That is true.
As I said …
"While child abuse needs to be dealt with, ..."
Priests confess, too, to superiors.
But in the Catholic system this is considered to be a religious act — the confessor wants to quit sinning, and ideally it will be caught at the point of lustful thoughts before any molestation.
I could use the Apples and Oranges defense here too. Christianity is a set of beliefs. The Catholic Church just one among many institutions which espouses those beliefs. Christianity and the Catholic Church are not synonymous.
You're saying that clergymen should be forced, under penalty of law, to divulge the contents of a private conversation to the almighty state?
Maybe we should just install telescreens everywhere so Big Brother can benevolently watch over everything we do, say, or think.
A priest can't confess to himself, and a penitent is free to select any priest they wish to confess to, so I'm not sure what your point is.
Quibble: Priests aren't supposed to confess to superiors unless no other option is available. It's a conflict-of-interest thing. They are supposed to seek out a peer or subordinate instead.
“You’re saying that clergymen should be forced, under penalty of law, to divulge the contents of a private conversation to the almighty state?”
Aiding and abetting is a crime.
Also, it is a violation of the 1st amendment to give any exceptions to the law based on religious principals.
In doing so the state is establishing a religion.
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