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Are we on the road to civilisation collapse?
bbc.com ^ | 2/19/2019 | Luke Kemp

Posted on 02/21/2019 6:18:36 PM PST by rktman

Great civilisations are not murdered. Instead, they take their own lives.

So concluded the historian Arnold Toynbee in his 12-volume magnum opus A Study of History. It was an exploration of the rise and fall of 28 different civilisations.

He was right in some respects: civilisations are often responsible for their own decline. However, their self-destruction is usually assisted.

The Roman Empire, for example, was the victim of many ills including overexpansion, climatic change, environmental degradation and poor leadership. But it was also brought to its knees when Rome was sacked by the Visigoths in 410 and the Vandals in 455.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: catastrophic; civilization; weallgonnadie
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To: Ransomed

Is decadence a sign of upcoming collapse?

When the legislature passes a bill that nobody has read, Obamacare, that is a decadent society.


21 posted on 02/21/2019 6:57:08 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: rktman

This ain’t no upwardly mobile freeway....oh no, this is the Road to Hell.


22 posted on 02/21/2019 6:57:46 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rktman

Road to????? We are already there. A society in ruins.


23 posted on 02/21/2019 7:01:36 PM PST by Maudeen (Jesus - our only Hope)
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To: dfwgator

We’ll I’m standing by a river but the water doesn’t flow
It boils with every poison you can think of.
Then I’m underneath the streetlights
But the light of joy I know
Scared beyond belief way down in the shadows.
And the perverted fear of violence chokes a smile on every face
And common sense is ringing out the bells.
This ain’t no technological breakdown
Oh no, this is the road to hell.

And all the roads jam up with credit
And there’s nothing you can do
It’s all just bits of paper flying away from you.
Look out world
Take a good look what comes down here
You must learn these lesson fast and learn it well.
This ain’t no upwardly mobile freeway
Oh no, this is the road
This is the road
This is the road to hell

~Chris Rea

https://youtu.be/OA1V7cI28hI


24 posted on 02/21/2019 7:12:55 PM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: waterhill

Awesome song, that whole album is great.

Chris isn’t in the best of health these days.


25 posted on 02/21/2019 7:17:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rktman

The West is in rapid decline. It’s an uneven decline, but a general collapse is coming.

I visited London in the 70s when I was a little kid....look at it now. Utterly distorted & beyond recognition.


26 posted on 02/21/2019 7:24:20 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: dfwgator

Hadn’t heard about his health issues. Too bad.


27 posted on 02/21/2019 7:26:19 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Rocky

The FAKENEWS with their snotty evil communist bastards reporterpukes are propelling us into a CIVIL WAR!! I’m beginning to think 2020 will be a year that will live in infamy as more states are choosing to trample the Constitution electoral law! We are at the point where the pressure on cork of the bottle is ready to pop!!! ALL HELL IS READY to break loose!!


28 posted on 02/21/2019 7:27:09 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: BenLurkin

In another time those would be Muslim bodies piled up from a hail of arrows coming from the ramparts.


29 posted on 02/21/2019 7:27:51 PM PST by TADSLOS (Being cremated is my last hope for a smoking hot body.)
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To: rktman

Yes.

Next question.


30 posted on 02/21/2019 7:31:28 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Ransomed
It’s like we are living in a sci-fi dystopia where the poorest people are the most likely to be obese

Frederik Pohl's 1956 short story, "The Man Who Ate The World."
31 posted on 02/21/2019 7:42:18 PM PST by Colinsky
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To: rktman

In my opinion we are on the fast track to a new dark age. Truth, objective science, rational thought, morality, are all being cast aside, and not by accident. The question is how to escape the s*it storm that is bearing down on us?


32 posted on 02/21/2019 8:05:44 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: sparklite2

Just look at the eligible voter turnout for the last 100 years. The people who choose not to vote have dwarfed any single political party’s turnout in presidential elections for 100+ years. For state and local elections the people who choose not to vote generally outnumber all political party turnout combined. The truly horrific thing about it is that it would probably be much worse if all those people had been voting.

I don’t know if the kind of things that are happening now are a sign of impending doom or not. They are things that have never happened before. Could be a huge disruption right around the corner. But I guess I don’t see a reason we can’t just keep gently sliding down the cultural slope either.

Freegards


33 posted on 02/21/2019 8:13:19 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: rktman

Climate change helped destroy the Roman Empire?

That sounds like Bluto firing everyone up with the line about the Nazi’s bombing Pearl Harbor.


34 posted on 02/21/2019 8:17:01 PM PST by Delta 21 (You can fool others. You can fool yourself. Reality does not accept your bull$h!t. I am reality.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Brown shoes, pink shoelaces


35 posted on 02/21/2019 8:19:06 PM PST by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: oldasrocks

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36 posted on 02/21/2019 8:24:26 PM PST by maxsand
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To: Ransomed

I hear you and confess that I don’t vote in local elections unless they are already on the state/federal ballot. And even then, my vote is so uninformed when the candidates are non-partisan like judges and board members, my vote is essentially random.


37 posted on 02/21/2019 8:29:59 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

One of the greatest threat is the destruction of basic truths. XX/XY means nothing, climate change is built on faulty models and faked data and elementary students are being taught that 2+2 doesn’t necessarily have to equal 4. When there is no ultimate truths, then truth is whatever the government says it is.


38 posted on 02/21/2019 8:32:06 PM PST by redangus
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To: sparklite2

Oh yeah, locally I only vote for county stuff, but I really don’t know a thing about them, never think about them again normally. When someone is unopposed I just don’t vote.

Freegards


39 posted on 02/21/2019 8:41:02 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: BenLurkin

Any cult that requires its followers to put their butt in the air and their head on the ground while on their knees is not a cult we want in Western civilization.


40 posted on 02/21/2019 9:24:43 PM PST by Boomer (We are one dem President away from America being destroyed into communism)
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