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President Trump, Please Stop the Grenell Global LGBT Campaign
World Net Daily ^ | February 20, 2019 | Scott Lively

Posted on 02/21/2019 1:39:04 PM PST by fwdude

President Trump has put his conservative base in a terrible situation by allowing openly homosexual U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell to lead a campaign to “decriminalize homosexuality” around the world. This gut-punch of a news story is being spun as a response to Iran’s recent execution of a homosexual man. While I believe I speak for most conservatives in saying I do not condone that execution, or capital punishment for any sexual crimes anywhere, I believe the Iran incident is simply a pretext for perpetuating the “All-In” Obama doctrine on LGBT issues by the U.S. State Department, and I think President Trump has been persuaded to cooperate on the false argument that doing so will mitigate leftist hatred of his administration here at home.

I have some bad news for President Trump: LGBTs and their surrogates in media, academia and government are IMPLACABLE. He will get no credit from the left, but will instead empower a small army of Trojan Horse “conservatives” among his base who are really progressive change-agents in disguise.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
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To: max americana

At that point the problem had well exited the closets of the day.

Law that got too interested in what happened by mutual consent in closets ended up sending the USSC in the opposite direction rather than what should have happened, i.e. readjusting a delicate balance. If we are unwise to ban it in a closet, then voila it’s now a public right everywhere — an absurd conclusion. Affirming respect for some private rights does not a public right make.


21 posted on 02/21/2019 2:01:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: rollo tomasi

If we look at what the Old Testament actually did (the penalty was steep for going past a line, but that line definitely was at a closet door) we can start to see wisdom. If it’s completely either-or, as you have have formulated, then we open up to secular liberals getting their way.


22 posted on 02/21/2019 2:05:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: fwdude

Of course I’m serious. Can you answer the question or not.


23 posted on 02/21/2019 2:07:11 PM PST by billyboy15 (Es)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

My point exactly.

Thanks


24 posted on 02/21/2019 2:07:54 PM PST by billyboy15 (Es)
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To: BlackAdderess

My understanding is that this is simply a campaign to get governments to stop executing people for being gay


Yes, that is the way I read it. It is not about decriminalizing it, just the punishment.


25 posted on 02/21/2019 2:08:26 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: billyboy15

Yet Trump is not minding his own business through this policy, hence the post you responded to went waaayyyyy over your head.


26 posted on 02/21/2019 2:10:16 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: amihow

What health burdens? STDs can and are transmitted by heterosexuals as well as homosexuals.


27 posted on 02/21/2019 2:11:55 PM PST by billyboy15 (Es)
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To: PeterPrinciple
You have a United States ambassador who happens to be homosexual appointed by Trump to be the head cheerleader of this policy. This is about acceptance, not just punishment.
28 posted on 02/21/2019 2:12:47 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Sorry, not buying what you say. Aberrant sexual behavior went on just as much before as now. It was simply hidden and ignored.


29 posted on 02/21/2019 2:14:15 PM PST by billyboy15 (Es)
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To: chris37

It has and it can.


30 posted on 02/21/2019 2:18:28 PM PST by amihow
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To: chris37

It has and it can.


31 posted on 02/21/2019 2:18:32 PM PST by amihow
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To: rollo tomasi

“Yet Trump is not minding his own business through this policy, hence the post you responded to went waaayyyyy over your head.”

Lol, really? seems to me by asking to have homosexual behavior decriminalized Trump was in effect telling the rest of the world to as you put it “mind their own business”

Seems as if you’re the one whose head this flew over.

Pay more attention next time?


32 posted on 02/21/2019 2:18:37 PM PST by billyboy15 (Es)
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To: billyboy15

STDs from you as if that is the only ramification. Research it.


33 posted on 02/21/2019 2:19:56 PM PST by amihow
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To: fwdude

Could be used to put a spotlight on how hideous Islam is.


34 posted on 02/21/2019 2:20:31 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

We have plenty of political capital abroad, and if some folks would put their thinking caps on, they’d realize Trump is trying to smash the political splinter groups that give the Democrats so much support. THINK!

This will look like Trump has done more for homosexual and LGBT folks than Obama and the Left ever did. And it isn’t doing anything.

Good grief. As Conservatives some of us act like they’re OAC on these matters.

NOTHING IS CHANGING. Okay?

He made a public statement that will carry no weight, will change nothing, and won’t bring the world crashing down.

We don’t kill homosexuals. We don’t imprison them.

Folks didn’t know that?

This IS NOT saying it’s okay to teach this “stuff” to our kids in school either.


35 posted on 02/21/2019 2:20:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: fwdude

I agree, this is VERY bad


36 posted on 02/21/2019 2:21:48 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: fwdude

Here is what I posted the last time this article was posted.

“...I do not condone that execution, or capital punishment for any sexual crimes anywhere...”

THAT part is true.

“...LGBTs and their surrogates in media, academia and government are IMPLACABLE. He will get no credit from the left...”

THAT part is true.

“...Reasonable tolerance and sympathy for people who suffer from same-sex attraction disorder is warranted – as is protecting them from violence...”

THAT part is true.

“...sanitizing homosexuality and transgenderism as if they were morally, psychologically and behaviorally equivalent to sexual and gender normalcy is PC-driven lunacy...”

THAT part is true.

BUT, his ass-umptions, predictions, and ascribed motives, not so much.

I couldn’t be any more anti-LGBTQXYZ, but violence against these people is WRONG! Persecution of these people is WRONG! Many of these people are misguided, ensnared by evil, dupes.

Their political agendas have to be opposed and defeated AT ALL COSTS! Their leaders discredited and deposed by all legal means.

In doing so, we can not condone violence and persecution.


37 posted on 02/21/2019 2:22:26 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: BlackAdderess

So under that reasoning, everything horrible that happens in the world is our problem and we must address it. I see that a recipe for permanent war and empire, and I am against it.


38 posted on 02/21/2019 2:22:29 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: billyboy15
Not an argument.

Please respond to percentages of STDs that have occurred, broken homes, divorce rates, public expenditures that perpetually covers this madness, slippery slope pitfalls that are occurring, along with people pushing to lower age of consent laws which you support because they use your same degenerate point.
39 posted on 02/21/2019 2:22:58 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: billyboy15
No, he is going to foreign governments and attempting to intercede/butt in which is the exact opposite of minding his own business.

If he minded his own business, he would not be doing this and allowing sovereign States to exercise their discretions, duh.
40 posted on 02/21/2019 2:26:05 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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