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Navy's First Stealthy Zumwalt Class Destroyer Photographed With 30mm Guns Fitted
The Drive ^ | FEBRUARY 17, 2019 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 02/20/2019 6:54:36 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) has been undergoing trials and combat systems outfitting in and around her home port of San Diego. The ship's metamorphosis into an operational combat ship is something we have been following closely. Recently, we reported on additions to her stealthy frame that would only hurt the size of radar signature. These included an exposed mast and a number of communications aerials bolted directly onto her deckhouse instead of being integrated into it seamlessly. Now, a new photo shows her fitted with twin 30mm Bushmaster cannons for the very first time.

The Zumwalt class, as we know it today, is a shadow of what it was originally envisioned to be. The vessel's capabilities and low-observable design have been progressively watered-down as part of an ongoing initiative to save money. With just three of the vessels being built, all of which are now in the water, the Navy decided to largely cut their losses and move on from trying to make the once billed as transformational Zumwalt class ships all that they could be. You can read all about this saga in this past special feature of ours.

The ramifications of producing just three vessels of the class and the cost cuts that came with it have gone so far as making the ship's 155mm Advanced Gun Systems (AGS), which takes up nearly the forward third of the entire ship, totally useless. Its ammo became too expensive to purchase in small quantities. Not long after this revelation, the Navy changed the class's mission to focus more on standoff strike and anti-surface warfare. It is possible that even nuclear strike could also be added sometime in the future.

Regardless, at this point, there is a real possibility that the AGS will be torn out of the ships entirely without ever firing a shot.

USN

Mk46 cannon being fired aboard a San Antonio class ship.

Another one of these cost cutting measures was swapping out the 57mm Mk110 guns mounted in stealthy cupolas above the ship's hangar with 30mm Bushmaster cannons that were not specifically adapted to conform to the ship's reduced radar signature. The Bushmasters were quite literally 'off the shelf' as they are found on the service's Littoral Combat Ships equipped with the Surface Warfare Mission Package and on San Antonio class amphibious assault ships. The idea was that money could be saved by switching to the far less capable system, both in terms of acquisition and integration, as well as sustainment over time.

USN

MK110 gun system firing away aboard the Littoral Combat Ship USS Freedom.

It's worth noting that the 57mm Mk110 deck guns are also in service aboard the Navy's Littoral Combat Ships, so it's not as if an entirely new system was being added to the Navy's logistical network. The 30mm Bushmasters are cheaper in every respect, but they are also in a completely different class, capability-wise.

USNI News noted that the 57mm guns fire at a rate of 220 rounds per minute and have a range of over nine miles, while the 30mm Bushmaster fires at up to 200 rounds per minute and has a range just over two miles. The 57mm also has far greater destructive power and some very exciting 'smart' ammunition options that the 30mm lacks entirely.

The Mk110 guns would have been integrated into the Zumwalt's advanced combat system. The 30mm Bushmaster, on the other hand, is a standalone and self contained system that is as close to 'plug and play' as you can get for the capability it provides. The operator literally sits inside the cupola and directs the cannon using thermal and electro-optical sensors built into the turret.

The Navy issued the following response to USNI's 2014 report on the matter:

At the time of DDG 1000 Critical Design Review in 2005, the MK110 (57mm) close-in gun system (CIGS) was selected to meet the DDG 1000 ORD Key Performance Parameter. The basis of that decision was the expected performance of the gun and its munition, coupled with desire for commonality in USN and USCG. Through 2010, various analysis efforts were conducted to assess the performance of potential cost-saving alternatives to the Mk 110 CIGS, for both procurement and life-cycle costs. The results of the analysis for alternative systems to the MK110 CIGS were not conclusive enough to recommend a shift in plan.

A follow on 2012 assessment using the latest gun and munition effectiveness information, concluded that the MK46 was more effective than the MK110 CIGS. Based on that assessment, approval was received to change from the MK 110 CIGS to the MK 46 Gun System. In addition to the increased capability, the change from MK110 to MK46 resulted in reduction in weight and significant cost avoidance, while still meeting requirements. DDG 1000 is planned to have two medium range MK46, 30mm Close-in Gun Systems that will provide a robust rapid fire capability and increased lethality against hostile surface targets approaching the ship.

You can take this statement anyway you like, but similar ones have been par for the course when it comes to justifying the Zumwalt class's decaying capabilities. Everything from the ship's drastically downgraded radar system to its low-observable design have been justified ambiguously by the term 'still meeting requirements,' albeit the exact nature of those requirements, or how fluid they have been, remain largely undisclosed.

USN

MK46 Bushmaster cannons seen aboard a Freedom class LCS with Surface Warfare Mission Package installed.

It's also unclear what level of impact the installation of the Bushmaster cannons will have on the ship's radar cross-section. The 57mm guns were designed to be encapsulated in stealthy turreted cupolas when not in use. The fact that they were integrated into the ship's combat system also meant they were mounted lower on the upper hangar enclosure in their wedge-shaped, faceted cupolas. The 30mm guns will not be concealed at all, they sit higher atop a trapezoidal structure with their turrets and barrels always exposed.

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Mk110 gun system in a stealthy copula seen on a Swedish Visby class corvette.

Still, the 30mm cannons will help the Zumwalt class put up some defense against potential small boat attacks. The ship's stealthy design made incorporating 25mm chain guns, which are the primary heavy-duty force protection armament on US Navy surface combatants, not possible. But the added capabilities the Mk110 offered, from possessing four times the range and far more stopping power than the Bushmasters, to being able to potentially counter some aerial threats if the Navy wished to integrate that capability, that were lost by the switch is significant regardless of how the Navy tries to spin it.

We also have to stress that all of these cost reduction measures have a cumulative impact on the Zumwalt's ability to wage war and where they can do it. In fact, maybe the persistent degradation of the vessel's low observable design is a good metaphor as any for its overall combat capability. Each small change may not be damning in itself, but they add up over time to the point that one really has to ask what did the Navy buy here after spending tens of billions of dollars on the program? And most importantly, after spending all that money developing and building these ships, is spending a comparatively tiny amount more to get these vessels to perform as they were originally envisioned to really not worth it?

In the end, the Zumwalt class will likely prove itself to be hugely capable even in its final downgraded form. But with just three vessels built, the tiny fleet is more likely to be part of an experimental force that eventually cannibalizes itself just to stay alive in any form than the game-changing fleet of stealthy ships that the program was originally envisioned to be. But even lessons learned from their existence will be more limited because of their compromised state.

It's just troubling that even before they set sail operationally, the DDG-1000s already have us wondering 'what could have been.'

Editor's note: A big thanks to our friend MrWasabi for letting us use his photo for this piece.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ddg; destroyer; usn; zumwalt
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To: KC Burke

Not surprising at all. What a cluster.


21 posted on 02/20/2019 7:36:12 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Here’s a question for you armament experts. Do the forces ever try to standardize their guns and ammo across the board, in order to cut costs and simplify systems?

For instance, you’ve got the 30mm round used by the A10 Thunderbolt. Could they use the same round for navy applications, and for the AC-130 gunship operated by SpecOps?

The Bradley has the 25mm in its main gun. Do they use it for other apps?

And in this latest big money flub by the Navy on the main gun in this article, couldn’t they use an existing round that the Army or Marines use, like the 155 or the 120 out of the Abrams?

It seems like we could save money and simplify by making common rounds that can be used by various platforms.


22 posted on 02/20/2019 7:40:42 AM PST by lurk
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To: Psalm 73
So, it's not totally helpless....

I'm sure it can hold its own against Somali pirates. So, yeah.

23 posted on 02/20/2019 7:43:33 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

no CIWS?


24 posted on 02/20/2019 7:46:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Allen M. Sumner class tin cans would be a better platform to update. Six 5 inch guns in three mounts, greater fuel storage capacity on a longer hull. Engineering wise, a light off fuel oil pump and light off blower in bravo one and three would be ideal. Replace the solo shell evaps with triple effect flash evaps. Automated feed water controls and an automatic burner management systems would make sense also.


25 posted on 02/20/2019 7:47:53 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Don Corleone

Congress is gearing up for unilateral disarmament under pelosi.


26 posted on 02/20/2019 7:55:16 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: lurk

Just my impression. There are a few common rounds and shared weapon systems but each round has a specific purpose. To cite one of your examples, the 30mm in the A-10 uses a specific super-heavy depleted uranium shell as the gun and the plane are purposed to be a tank-killer.

That heavy round would have distance problems if used ship to air for example. The Navy if using that ship to air would be more concerned with distance, speed, accuracy and rate of fire, all handled better by a lighter round.


27 posted on 02/20/2019 7:58:32 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Personally, I like the Navy’s Sea Hunter autonomous ship. It is 132 feet long and has a range of 10,000 nautical miles. It also costs 1/7th the amount of most other ships to operate. Although the 4 ships that they have are unarmed, they will probably be outfitted with ASW gear and some kind of surface weapon(s) when they finish their 2 years of sea trials.


28 posted on 02/20/2019 8:01:06 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: Sequoyah101

>>>Why not just use rockets or missiles even?

Making a gun do what a rocket or missile does seems completely unnecessary.<<<

The rocket assisted gun has advantages over a missile cruiser. The Zumwalts were going to have two AGS (Advanced Gun System) that would each be able to fire 10 rounds a second. So in a shock and awe type of bombardment you could get off 20 precise rounds in a minute. But the magazine was 304 shells so you could keep that up longer. I am totally ignorant on say the Ticonderoga class, if it has a magazine on board to replace what is in the vertical launchers, but I think not. Anyways that ship has 2-61 missile cells that can fit things like harpoons or tomahawks. The AGS ammo was priced at $800k per, which is probably due to only 3 ships being built. If the entire 21 ship class was built the price would probably have come down a lot. The tomahawks are like 1.8m per round but much much more capable and have a much longer range.

Considering the last Ticonderoga cruiser built has a displacement roughly 2/3 of the Zumwalt you can argue that the navy could have just built a few more cruisers that were compatible with the rest of the fleet. But keep in mind the navy believes the rail gun will be used. It just appears it will be about a decade later than initially thought.


29 posted on 02/20/2019 8:05:04 AM PST by BJ1
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Stealthy, yes - but ...

Is she safe from Japanese Cargo vessels?

More pointedly, what good is a “stealthy” warship, if the Navy cannot manage to bring onboard actual sailors to man her, rather than incompetent bridge personnel - hired to fill some affirmative action quota?


30 posted on 02/20/2019 8:20:40 AM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Based on the photos it only has a single helo hanger - even my OHP frigate had hanger space for 2 and this thing is huge in comparison. It does tell me though that they are treating it like a cruiser with no attention to Anti-sub duties whatsoever.

Anyone know if it even has a tail (towed passive sonar)?

I’m all for stealth and guns - but it’s a multi-dimensional theater out there.


31 posted on 02/20/2019 8:38:10 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The stealth didn’t work, you can see it really easily.


32 posted on 02/20/2019 9:19:18 AM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: BJ1

I read an article where the Army was working on a 155mm that can fire 1000 miles. If true the rail gun on a ship would be redundant and a waste. I think the Zumwalt and LCS ships as a total waste of money. They have little to no offensive punch and very little defensive weaponry. You have fancy stealthy hulls with nothing in them of value aside from the crews.

An updated Spruance class with bigger guns and modernized weapons or more Arleigh Burkes would make more sense at this point.


33 posted on 02/20/2019 11:16:32 AM PST by sarge83
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why brand a ship with the name of the worst Chief of Naval Operations in American Naval history?


34 posted on 02/20/2019 11:52:49 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: freedumb2003

There were supposed to be 80 or 1000 of them not three


35 posted on 02/20/2019 11:58:38 AM PST by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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