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The Cops Were the Aggressors in This Week's Deadly Houston Drug Raid
Reason ^ | 1-29-19 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/31/2019 8:38:46 AM PST by slumber1

On Monday evening in Houston, a dozen armed men broke into the home of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, a middle-aged couple who had lived in the house at 7815 Harding Street for at least two decades. The first man through the door, who was armed with a shotgun, used it to kill one of the couple's dogs. Tuttle responded to the home invasion by grabbing a revolver and shooting the man with the shotgun, who collapsed on a sofa in the living room. As Nicholas tried to disarm the intruder, his accomplices shot her. Tuttle returned fire, and by the end of the shootout he and his wife were both dead. Four of the assailants were hit by gunfire, while a fifth injured his knee.

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To: Kazan
Absolutely, they deserved to die. They decided to unleash a pit bull and decided to shoot it out with police

Really? Were they charged and convicted of any of that? That is your standard, no can say that unless they were.

You really are a an unstable nutjob.

Oh, and they never shot at anyone.

341 posted on 08/24/2019 4:13:33 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: sport; Kazan
I believe that allegations were made that a c.i. purchased heroin "in the vicinity" of the residence.

That was the first story the dirty cop told, then he said he bought it. He lied both times.

Now he is under investigation for stealing guns, money and drugs during these raids. He needs to burn on a stake.

342 posted on 08/24/2019 4:18:55 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
That is utterly irrelevant because the two losers decided to get into a shootout with police.

What part of "that never happened" don't you get? The only loser here is you. It's funny that an idiot like you calls anyone else a moron.

You are the one on this thread that has been wrong about everything. And why don't you give the murdered couple the same presumption of innocence you insist the dirty cops deserve? Dumbass.

343 posted on 08/24/2019 4:25:08 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: rktman
"it was the fbi."

Really... That seems rather odd.. Maybe the Stone's did something to piss off someone in the swamp..? I wonder if they work anywhere in the government.? Or maybe their neighbor work in the government.?

344 posted on 08/24/2019 4:51:43 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: taxcontrol
"1) Only the elected Sheriff should have a SWAT team.

I like number one a lot... And number two ain't bad... :)

345 posted on 08/24/2019 4:57:31 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: MileHi
It happened. The officers didn't shoot themselves.

You're so delusional you reject the fact in the case.

MileHi is obviously more than just reference to where you live.

Even the less than anti-police, pro-drug legalization Reason.com admits that:

https://reason.com/2019/05/14/forensic-experts-find-no-evidence-that-houston-narcs-who-killed-dennis-tuttle-and-rhogena-nicholas-encountered-gunfire-as-they-entered-the-house/

According to the cops who served the warrant, which was based on a "controlled buy" of heroin that apparently never happened and authorized a search that found no evidence of drug dealing, Tuttle began shooting at them with a .357 Magnum revolver immediately after the first officer through the door used a shotgun to kill a dog that confronted him as he entered the house. They say the officer with the shotgun collapsed on a couch after a round from Tuttle's gun struck him, at which point Nicholas moved to disarm him, prompting the cops to shoot her twice. Tuttle continued firing, we are told, until he died in a hail of bullets that struck him at least eight times.

346 posted on 08/24/2019 5:12:51 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
Really? Were they charged and convicted of any of that? That is your standard, no can say that unless they were.

You're retarded. It's a FACT that Tuttle shot at the officers. The other officers have said a pit bull was unleashed and rushed at them and that the woman tried to take a shotgun from an officer.

Meanwhile, not a single statement has been released that provides evidence the officer charged with murder did anything wrong. Perhaps it will come out in trial. But, there is NO evidence in the public domain that proves he's guilty of murder.

You're a reactionary idiot. You want to declare someone guilty of murder with ZERO EVIDENCE at this point.

347 posted on 08/24/2019 5:18:04 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan; MileHi
The other officers have said a pit bull was unleashed

The murdered couple kept their dog on a leash IN the house?    thinking face

I'm canvassing for the Census.

Dogs inside go nuts when you get NEAR the house.

Are you claiming that the curtilage of a house is owned by the police if they suddenly decide that bullsqueeze is so?   thinking face

I'm thinking you might need professional help...

348 posted on 08/24/2019 5:46:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Kazan
The question people have to ask is “What prevents this from happening to me or a loved one?”
Answer: Don't sell drugs.
...or be so unfortunate as to be falsely accused of selling drugs.

Such flippant endorsement of Tyranny—in such an abject, arbitrary, and murderous form—is absolutely shameful, and unambiguously Unamerican on its face...

349 posted on 08/24/2019 6:02:29 PM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: MileHi

Thank you for the information. I was going from memory and could not be positive.


350 posted on 08/24/2019 7:19:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: Kazan
According to the cops...

Yeah, and they lied. Why was the .357 never listed? Because there wasn't one! Try again.

351 posted on 08/24/2019 7:44:48 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
It's a FACT that Tuttle shot at the officers.

Post it.

352 posted on 08/24/2019 7:47:02 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
The other officers have said a pit bull was unleashed and rushed at them and that the woman tried to take a shotgun from an officer.

You mean the cops that are known liars?

353 posted on 08/24/2019 7:48:59 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
Meanwhile, not a single statement has been released that provides evidence the officer charged with murder did anything wrong.

Except for the murder charges, almost unheard of against police involved in questionable shoots.

354 posted on 08/24/2019 7:52:59 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
You're a reactionary idiot. You want to declare someone guilty of murder with ZERO EVIDENCE at this point.

Is "reactionary" a special word for you, snowflake?

Why do you want to condemn "the two losers decided to get into a shootout with police" when there is no evidence except the cops who lied? Why no .357 in the inventory? maybe, just maybe, there never was one? Braintrust?

355 posted on 08/24/2019 8:03:27 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: kiryandil

Yes. But I think there is something very personal or pathological to those posts. Moving goal posts not by yards but miles. At this point what we all feared, thought and suspected was true. I am very sad for this couple. I’m very sad for the family. I’m sad for our country. Some people cannot admit to the evil we all see. That’s ok. Ignore them. Turn your back to them. No salvation in hitting your head against the rock. Save the others.


356 posted on 08/25/2019 4:14:10 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: MileHi
Why do you want to condemn "the two losers decided to get into a shootout with police" when there is no evidence except the cops who lied?

Because they were losers like you, paranoid because of drug usage and ready to shoot it out with police and go down in a blaze of glory.

Snowflake? That would be you. I'm not getting my panties in a bunch over a couple of burnt out druggies. The crooked cops were forced to return and face criminal charges and that's fine with me, too.

You're the one acting like we live a police state and/or that most police officers are corrupt. That's kind of hysteria one expects from a snowflake.

357 posted on 08/25/2019 10:05:17 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Reality isn’t a place where you spend much time, is it snowflake?


358 posted on 08/26/2019 6:53:46 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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